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Re: any examples of acquired absolute pitch?
I find it amazing that you all talk about absolute or perfect pitch
in regard to Western tuning systems!
Why are Western systems 'perfect' or 'absolute'?
These tuning systems are constructed, like the Bible, on thousands of
inputs and are not related to any 'one thing' except their own outcome!
viz Stuart Isacoff "Temperament" which documents the history of how
we arrived at our "perfect" systems!!
They are not 'perfect' and they represent nothing except
imperialistic notions...how could pitch be perfect in Iran? in
Thailand? in Indonesia? in Africa?
Susan Allen PhD
Associate Dean for Academic Affairs
Instructor of Harp & Improvisation
The Herb Alpert School of Music at CalArts
California Institute of the Arts
Valencia, CA 91355 USA
On Apr 18, 2008, at 10:57 PM, Arturo Camacho wrote:
Check http://www.perfectpitch.com. They claim that many people have
acquired perfect pitch with their method and cite two studies in
effectiveness has been confirmed:
(1) Rush, M. A. An experimental investigation of the effectiveness of
training on absolute pitch in adult musicians, The Ohio State
(2) Nering, Marguerite Elaine. A study to determine the
the David Lucas Burge technique for development of Perfect Pitch, The
University of Calgary.
I tried the method about 15 years ago and got to hear what they
a maximum in smoothness at C and a maximum in sharpness at F#
not their exact words, but what I remember I perceived). However, I
not as consistent as recommended (I was too busy to practice
after a while my performance actually started to decrease. I gave
about 1/4 of the course.
Hi, i've found some interesting comments on absolute pitch on this
mailing list and was wondering if anyone has heard of any examples of
people who have acquired absolute pitch somehow during their later
ie not in early childhood development.
There is a clear trend between absolute pitch (AP) and autism, and
autistic savants with musical talents (which tend to be more in
music reproduction ability than creative composition) that have been
examined also have AP. There are numerous examples of people who have
acquired special abilities such as those exhibited by autistic
a result of injury or other non-developmental processes. I haven't
heard of any examples of people who have acquired AP later in
would be very useful if anyone knows of any examples.
There are suggestions that AP development is an independent
is present in autistic and non-autistic people, and that presence
of AP is
pre-requisite for development of special musical abilities for
This model would suggest that cases of later-life AP
development would be unlikely, however if there are any examples
developing AP later in life for example through brain injury,
how savant-like special abilities have been shown to be developed
(essentially spontaneously), it would be very useful.
a couple of references:
pitch in autism: a case study, L Mottron, I Peretz, S Belleville,
- Neurocase, 1999
Musical savants: exceptional skill in the mentally retarded,
Miller L K,
Lawrence Erlbaum, 1989: 266
Absolute pitch in blind musicians, Roy H. Hamilton, Alvaro Pascual-
and Gottfried Schlaug, NeuroReport Vol 15 No 5, 9 April 2004
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Arturo Camacho, PhD
Computer and Information Science and Engineering
University of Florida
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