| Hi Neil, The tolerance for delay will depend on the loss in the 
sidetone path. You can find some relevant information in Figure 1/G.131 
of ITU-T Recommendation G.131. This document can be 
downloaded free of charge at: http://www.itu.int/rec/T-REC-G.131-200311-I Just be careful about the generalizability of these results to 
your application (e.g., tolerance could be different for wider bandwith 
speech). Best regards, Scott Pennock QNX Software Systems From: AUDITORY - Research in Auditory Perception [mailto:AUDITORY@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Neil Waterman Sent: January 18, 2010 11:19 AM To: AUDITORY@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Hello all, I was pointed to this list from the friendly folk over at the SurSound 
(surround sound list) as my question will hopefully sit more comfortably with 
the expertise here, but as a newbie here I'll preface my question with a 
preemptive apology if I am at all off-topic for the list focus. Here's my question: I have been attempting to track down any research 
directed toward human perception of delay in local sidetone. Specifically I am 
trying to find any work investigating perception of very short delays when using 
fully digital systems that return sidetone via the digital signal chain (mic 
--> A/D --> processing system --> D/A --> headset). An example might be the use of a fully digital 
communications system within an aircraft, where the processing system is the 
aircraft communications equipment. When the crew talk on a radio, they expect to 
hear themselves via sidetone (this confirms the radio is working for one 
thing).  Although searching high and low, I have been unable to 
find anything useful regarding tolerance to delay. It seems most of what I can 
find refers to VoIP systems, where the latency issues appear to be much longer 
than those I am considering. In the limited work I can, find most dismiss delays in 
the sub-20mS as being below human perception, however I have evidential proof 
that this is plainly wrong. If anyone has any suggestions for research that 
covers sidetone delay in the sub-20mS region I would be extremely 
grateful. Thanks in advance for any and all input. - Neil |