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Re: Re : Topics for discussion

Dear list
The prolonged discussion for music can be done effectively on SoSoMir.net by creating a special group. SoSoMIR.net is a professional web site. The discussion result can be summarized and sent to the AUDITORY list.

All the best
Yi Yu
On 3/17/10, frédéric maintenant <fmaintenant@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
Thank you Mr Bregman for your comment!

I take the opportunity to ask again (I believe I did not use the proper mode of answering, since 4 or 5 years I haven't been much active on the list, being again more involved with music):
Does anybody know or is aware of how Gunther Schuller composed his piece Spectra (1958), it seems that he used spectral analysis of sound, a method that would be years ahead of his time. I am not only interested in the musical aspect of his composition but also in the potential scientific side: did he use scientific knowledge? 

Rousseau, in his dictionary, wrote already very advance things concerning differential sounds, partials, noise etc.; it seems that his most mature and official writing (ie the dictionary) has been widely overlooked. Here's a paper by the Cornelia Fales that put forward some of Rousseau's conception on sound and music:

Cornelia Fales (2005):  Listening to timbre during the French enlightment,

it gives an excellent account of the epistemology of the notion of timbre and can be read at:


I'd like to thank again Mr Giordano to have share with us the 1973 Wessel's paper:


It is a real gem! I noticed that the orientation was much more musical than what can be read afterward, notably with the mention of Varèse and Ligeti.

All the best,

Frédéric Maintenant
Chargé de cours à l'université Paul Valéry, Montpellier
Membre du groupe de recherche IDEAT/CNRS-Panthéon-Sorbonne, Paris

De : Al Bregman <al.bregman@xxxxxxxxx>
À : AUDITORY@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Envoyé le : Mar 16 mars 2010, 23 h 34 min 04 s
Objet : Topics for discussion

Dear list,

I would like to remind everyone that the AUDITORY list members come
from a variety of disciplines including experimental psychology,
linguistics (especially phonology), infant development, brain
sciences, music and other sonic arts, audio technology, artificial
intelligence, robotics, computer science, and speech and hearing
science.  For the last little while, the postings seem to have focused
heavily on a rather technical and heated discussion of the mechanics
of the cochlea.  It is impressive to see the enthusiasm of researchers
on this topic, but I hope that other people will not be discouraged
from interrupting this discussion with questions, announcements, and
messages on other topics.

Perhaps it would be a good idea if, when any group wishes to have a
prolonged discussion of a highly specialized topic, they form a
discussion group of interested parties.  It would then be of great
interest for the list as a whole to be brought up to date on the
thoughts, and maybe conclusions, of this specialized group if any of
its members were willing to take the trouble to write up summaries
from time to time.

Best to all,


Albert S. Bregman, Emeritus Professor
Psychology Department, McGill University
1205 Docteur Penfield Avenue
Montreal, QC, Canada H3A 1B1.
Office:  Phone: (514) 398-6103, Fax: (514) 398-4896