Re: [AUDITORY] can you tell when music is AI-generated?

Subject: Re: [AUDITORY] can you tell when music is AI-generated?

From: Henkjan Honing <00000177348471e8-dmarc-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2024 16:48:17 +0000

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Haha, I love to be oldier, if not simply because I just got a Lifetime Achievement Award from my SMPC colleagues! (much appreciated.) Time to retire, you would think?!

Well, lets connect elsewhere. You know how to find me.

Henkjan

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Faculty of Humanities 

Faculty of Science

Prof. dr Henkjan Honing

Professor of Music Cognition 
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On 25 Aug 2024, at 18:08, Pierre Divenyi <pdivenyi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hello Henkjan,

We, two oldies, may want to talk and reminisce over our past experiences inside and outside our labs! It seems that we were stepping forward on parallel paths. Pity that we did not meet during my frequent trips to your city!…

Presently I do no research any more — closed my lab 12 years ago. Playing the piano and giving concerts with my baritone friend, but only in the Berkeley area where I live with my documentary filmmaker wife Connie Field. And writing my personal history of when and how I left Hungary.

My very best wishes,

Pierre

Pardon my typos. It's Apple's fault.

On Aug 25, 2024, at 01:04, Henkjan Honing <H.J.Honing@xxxxxx> wrote:

Reminds me of the work we did roughly twenty years ago with real and manipulated recordings [1, 2]. The Auditory-list then loved to do those games! But detecting AI is more tricky of course. IRCAM and others do interesting work on this…

Henkjan

[1] https://doi.org/10.1037/a0012732

[2] https://doi.org/10.1037/0096-1523.32.3.780

On 24 Aug 2024, at 07:29, Pierre Divenyi <pdivenyi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi Samuel,

As for myself, and I guess for many of my colleagues, it would be interesting to sees the results of your test. Can you please let us in after you have some of them at your disposal?

Thank you and best wishes,

Pierre

Pardon my typos. It's Apple's fault.

On Aug 23, 2024, at 21:13, Samuel Mehr <sam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi AUDITORY, one of my grad students, Jan Simson, is working on attitudes surrounding AI. As part of a survey has thrown together an "AI or not?" music game, where participants listen to music and try to guess whether it was created by AI or a human. I get the sense that folks working in the auditory, hearing, music spaces often wonder how detectable AI-generated music is, so this may be fun for folks to try out.

You can play at https://www.themusiclab.org/quizzes/dafi?src=""> and pleaes feel free to complete the AI attitudes survey that follows the game if you're interested (you can also just click through that part if you only want to check out the music portion).

Enjoy !

all the best
Sam

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Samuel Mehr
School of Psychology, University of Auckland
and Child Study Center, Yale University
Be a citizen scientist at themusiclab.org!

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University of Amsterdam
Faculty of Humanities
Faculty of Science

Prof. dr Henkjan Honing
Professor of Music Cognition

Music Cognition Group (MCG)
Amsterdam Brain & Cognition (ABC)
Institute for Logic, Language and Computation (ILLC)

www.mcg.uva.nl

linktr.ee/musiccognition

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