Subject: [Fwd: Well said!] From: Stephen McAdams <Stephen.McAdams(at)IRCAM.FR> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:55:25 +0100Return-Path: <pdivenyi(at)marva4.ncsc.med.va.gov> Received: from maelzel.ircam.fr (maelzel.ircam.fr [129.102.1.10]) by fenris.ircam.fr (8.8.8/jtpda-5.2.9.2/ircam) with ESMTP id WAA16442 for <smc(at)fenris.ircam.fr>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 22:16:10 +0100 (MET) Received: from marva4.ebire.org (pdivenyi(at)marva4.ncsc.med.va.gov [198.207.168.100]) Received: (from pdivenyi(at)localhost) by marva4.ebire.org (8.7.3/8.6.12) id NAA07889 for smc(at)ircam.fr; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 13:06:54 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 13:06:54 -0800 (PST) From: "P. L. Divenyi" <pdivenyi(at)marva4.ncsc.med.va.gov> Message-Id: <199803242106.NAA07889(at)marva4.ebire.org> To: smc(at)ircam.fr Subject: Well said! Steve, Here is my answer to Ed etc. Unfortunately, it came back from the List because my address has changed (only the machine's but the list is too stupid or just sufficiently careful and it strictly refuses contribution from unknown addresses). Would you please post it for me? Thanks. Hope you are doing well. All the best, Pierre ==================== To: auditory(at)vm1.mcgill.ca Subject: Tomatis, Parncutt, Burns et al. Dear Colleagues, Richard's note was very informative. Now I know why I have never trusted the pro-Tomatis crowd composed mainly of musicians. Re/ Mozart as the supreme stimulus provider: Whitfield ("The Auditory Pathway", 1967) missed the boat when he said that no one has yet found a cell in the brain that responded to Beethoven's Eroica. He should have tried Mozart's Haffner symphony instead. In defense of French colleagues (yes, Ed!), I would like to go on record saying that there are a number of excellent French scientists in hearing research. However, it is also true that the French establishment caters to individuals whose message is somewhat confused, provided that they have the political connections to get a soapbox to stand on. In 1979, JASA asked me to review a book by a certain E. Leipp (since then deceased) with the title "The listening machine -- an essay in psychoacoustics". My less-than-positive review has earned me the respect of a number of French colleagues who would have been unable to stand up against the establishment supporting the publication of a book of fictional character. Maybe Ed Burns wants to review one of Tomatis's opuses for JASA, just to lay the cause to rest? Pierre Divenyi pdivenyi(at)ucdavis.edu or pdivenyi(at)marva4.ebire.org