Re: Bob Carlyon's request to hold (Michael Kubovy )

Subject: Re: Bob Carlyon's  request to hold
From:    Michael Kubovy  <mk9y(at)>
Date:    Wed, 20 Sep 2000 05:23:22 -0400

Bob is, in summary: > In FAVOUR of demonstrations > in FAVOUR of (or at least neutral about) the internet > AGAINST references to demos in the literature, except as supplements to > formal experiments published after anonymous peer review Let me first spell out how I agree with Bob's position, which does not appear to be anti-phenomenological. The database Al is proposing would have the following status as a citation in an article: (1) The sound file would be analogous to visual stimuli embedded in the text of an article (e.g. Al's beautiful "Bees and the inkblot" demonstration). It is legitimate for authors to describe what they and others perceive in a stimulus. If the reviewers of your article don't agree, they'll reject the article. Phenomenology works when it works for those who have power. (2) The comments by the creators of the demos, accompanying the sound file, would have the status of non-peer-reviewed personal communication. (3) The sound file and the attached comments would serve as a valuable impetus for further exploration by researchers in the field. (4) The project is not internet-dependent. Periodically, CD-ROMS could be prepared, with an accompanying descriptive booklet. This part of the project could be paid for by subscription or covered by the funding agency. Regarding funding: The innovative service that Al is offering to our community is different from a journal, and would not require ongoing peer review. Its function would be catalytic. The funding agencies should fund the the first three years of the project on the basis of the testimony of a sufficient number of established researchers who claim that this catalytic function is likely to be served well by the setup Al is proposing. Down the road, before they renewed funding, the funding agencies could require objective evidence that this function is indeed being served (how many researchers accessed the database, how many articles cited it, testimonials as to its use in training, etc.). ____________________________________________________________________ |\ /| / Michael Kubovy, Dept. of Psychology, Univ. of Virginia | \/ | / P.O.Box 400400, Charlottesville, VA 22904-4400 | |/\ office (B011): 804-982-4729, lab (B019): -4751 | | \ Dept. fax: -4766; personal fax: 240-218-2334 | | \; FTP:

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