Subject: Re: grammar and music From: Martin Braun <nombraun(at)POST.NETLINK.SE> Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 22:30:25 +0200Hi Daniel, we discussed your issue on this list a few days ago. You might like to read Robert Zatorre's letter under http://sound.media.mit.edu/dpwe-bin/mhmessage.cgi/AUDITORY/postings/2001/284 and my reply under http://sound.media.mit.edu/dpwe-bin/mhmessage.cgi/AUDITORY/postings/2001/285 Other animals are unlikely to show this effect, because they bother very little about the balance of melody lines. You might have success with some melody lines in some birds, though. Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: Daniel J. Tollin <tollin(at)PHYSIOLOGY.WISC.EDU> To: <AUDITORY(at)LISTS.MCGILL.CA> Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 3:54 PM Subject: grammar and music > Hi, > If I understand correctly, one of the pieces of evidence supporting the > notion that humans have a musical grammar faculty is that we are able to > discriminate when an inappropriate note is played in place of a "correct" > note in a piece of music an observer may have never heard before. And > apparently one can also record EEG correlates of this phenomenon. Any > chance of finding the same thing in an animal? > > Also, in England a few years back the BBC (or ITV or Channel4, I don't > remember) aired a series of shows on audition. In one segment, they showed > an example of an observer's ability to detect a deviant note. And I > believe they also showed the corresponding differences in brain activity. > Anybody remember that show and is there any way to get a copy? > > Cheers, > > Daniel J. Tollin, Ph.D.