groups vs streams (David Spondike )

Subject: groups vs streams
From:    David Spondike  <Dspondike(at)AOL.COM>
Date:    Tue, 22 May 2001 06:05:18 EDT

Dear list - This has been a fascinating conversation. I would like to mention a couple of things that I believe may be just taken for granted and are being left unsaid. It seems that the question being asked is: when does the individual stream of any individual hand clap become indistinguishable from the applause? As mentioned in a previous post, the distance from any individual clapper will correlate with an ability to distinguish the sound of that clapper. More fundamentally, one needs to consider the directed attention of the listener. One can focus on any number of individual clappers if he or she is close enough to the source of applause. The question then becomes: how distant must the listener be before any individual clapper becomes indistinguishable from the applause, despite the effort of any directed attention on the part of the listener? Secondly- for me as a musician, it is this very ambiguousness of perception that offers the most interesting and fruitful material for composition. Thank you list, David Spondike Dspondike(at)

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