Subject: Re: Can Musicians practice with hearing protectors? From: Andy Vermiglio <avermiglio(at)HEI.ORG> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 11:03:23 -0700In light of Alex Galembo's note about "real time control" of the feedback from the instrument, I have a question. When a musician uses a midi instrument with a slight delay, it is apparently possible for the brain to compensate for this delay and to subsequently produce an acceptable performance. Anecdotally, I have experienced and have heard from others the unfortunate situation where a musician switches from a midi instrument (with a delay of up to 3-4ms for Roland's V-drums for example) to playing on an acoustic instrument. There appears to be a period of adaptation before the musician regains comfort playing in real time. Are there any reports in the literature on this? Best, Andy Vermiglio -----Original Message----- From: AUDITORY Research in Auditory Perception [mailto:AUDITORY(at)LISTS.MCGILL.CA] On Behalf Of Alex Galembo, PhD Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 2:55 AM To: AUDITORY(at)LISTS.MCGILL.CA Subject: Can Musicians practice with hearing protectors? Ole Juhl Pedersen wrote: > For possible inclusion in the list: > > Subject: > Can Musicians practice with hearing protectors? > Generally - it sounds senseless. The music performer's feel and action are based on real time control of dynamical feedback from the instrument, via both kinesthetic and auditory perceptual channels. A performer permanently compares his physical efforts with the tonal result produced and makes corrections to achieve the musical result desired. If to modify, change the sound in this chain, the performer will loose a proper and detailed information about the musical result of playing, and will not be able to correct his playing efforts properly. In most of industry, where, unlike in music, the sound is not a main aim, object and result of the activity, just an undesired consequence, harmful hindrance, hearing protectors might be of use. In musical practicing it also can be, say in learning playing mechanically (using a "silent" keyboard, for example), but it is not a real music playing, just training of muscles. Read for more details http://www.engineeringandmusic.de/individu/galealex/gaalproc.html Alex Galembo -- Alexander Galembo, Ph.D. Visiting researcher Dept. of Speech, Music and Hearing Royal Inst. of Technology Stockholm, Sweden Tel. 46-8-7907856 Fax 46-8-7907854 E-mail: alex(at)speech.kth.se WEB: http://www.geocities.com/galembo_alex/