Subject: Re: audio editor From: beaucham <beaucham(at)MANFRED.MUSIC.UIUC.EDU> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:02:05 -0500Dear Mehmet, Thanks for your advice on getting ahold of a working version of the Wavesurfer sound file editor. It looks like to me that my easiest solution, for a lot of things, is to upgrade my OS to 10.3 or 10.4. I've been holding back for a long time because things have been working well (although not perfectly) under 10.1, and I didn't want to have to go through a period of adjustment after upgrading -- this always seems to happen. Now that I'm nearly done with a certain "big project" that I didn't want to upset, I think I'm just about ready for a new stage of my life. (However, I'm not looking forward to the obsolescence of all my software after Apple switches over to the Intel chip software next year.) By the way, I poked around under the WaveSurfer-1.8.3 directory and found two executables, Tcl and Tk. Deeper down in the directory structure I found a lot of files with .tcl extensions. This seems to be some sort of scripting language, and the whole organization of the WaveSurfer-1.8.3 directory lays open how the program was developed. Quite a complicated affair! The Linux version, on the other hand, comes as a single compact executable, so "what you can't see doesn't hurt you". Do you have any idea why the programmers would make Wavesurfer available in this complex open structure for Mac OS X but just as a simple opaque (but easy to use) binary executable for Linux? Best regards, Jim You wrote: >From: Mehmet-Ali Gulbol <mag(at)acoustics.aau.dk> >Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 13:09:30 +0200 >To: beaucham <beaucham(at)manfred.music.uiuc.edu> >Subject: Re: audio editor >CC: AUDITORY(at)LISTS.MCGILL.CA > >beaucham wrote: >> Rene', >> >> I added '.app' at the end of the WaveSurfer-1.8.3 name, and indeed >> my system (10.1.5) thinks it's an application. However, when I >> double click on the icon, it gives an error message -- "The application >> WaveSurfer-1.8.3 has unexpectedly quit". I have to conclude that it >> requires an OS that's more advanced than what I have. Since 10.2.8 >> didn't work for one user that responded, it probably requires at least >> 10.3. >> >> Jim > > From my limited knowledge of computers, I understand that WaveSurfer is >using libraries called Tcl/Tk to draw its windows. The latest WaveSurfer >(1.8.3) comes with Tcl/Tk versions 8.4.9, which indeed works only on >10.3 and later. There is a version (8.4.1) of Tcl/Tk that works on 10.1 >(see http://tcltkaqua.sourceforge.net), but I don't expect it's enough >to install it to make WaveSurfer work. However maybe you should try to >contact the developper (I don't see an email, but there's the WaveSurfer >forum) to get an older version. The WaveSurfer website (under /download) >states that older versions are available, but you have to know their >name to be able to download them. And of course you need to know which >one would work with 10.1. > >Regards, >Mehmet.