Re: Sound head of the 'Moviola' (Kevin Austin )


Subject: Re: Sound head of the 'Moviola'
From:    Kevin Austin  <kevin.austin@xxxxxxxx>
Date:    Tue, 28 Dec 2010 17:35:07 -0500
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--Boundary_(ID_SAvkS3NyfC9aocayTv7rjg) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT http://www.amazon.com/Norman-McLaren-Masters-Grant-Munro/dp/B000H7J9OY The McLaren DVD set (7 DVDs). There is also information on the techniques used. A particular example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jqz_tx1-xd4 and more on YouTube As I understand it, most [all?] of his work was done with variable area optical tracks (as distinct from variable density). Kevin On 2010, Dec 28, at 2:02 PM, ita katz wrote: > Hi Sam and thanks for the details. > > Generally I am interested in both, but particularly I am interested in the work of the Canadian animator Norman Mclaren, who used the Moviola to synthesize musical soundtrack to his animation. I plan to investigate the sound production mechanism of the optical pickup (since I find the sound very interesting), and I guess it is mainly influenced by the coupling to the electronic circuit and the electronic circuit itself, producing the unique 'analog' feel of the sound. So any further information (in addition to your suggestions) in that direction would be helpful. > > Ita. > > On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 8:20 PM, Sam Jelfs <JelfsS1@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > Ita, > > Are you interested in the Moviola particularly, or optical audio in general? If the latter, then http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movie_projector#Optical has a good basic intro to how traditional optical-encoded amplitude modulation works, as well as more modern Dolby Digital / SDDS / DTS digital-optical audio encoding. You may find more luck searching using terms such as "sound-on-film". > > Sound Recording Practice (ed. John Borwick) (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sound-Recording-Practice-John-Borwick/dp/0198166087/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1293560292&sr=8-1) has a section on the technology used in audio reproduction for film as well, might be worth looking in your library for. > > Sam Jelfs > > From: AUDITORY - Research in Auditory Perception [mailto:AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx On Behalf Of ita katz > Sent: 28 December 2010 15:55 > To: AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx > Subject: [AUDITORY] Sound head of the 'Moviola' > > Hello, > > I am looking for information about the optical sound head of the movie-editing machine called 'Moviola'. http://www.alangordon.com/sales/used_equipment/editing_equipment/moviola_ud-20-cs.html > > Specifically I would like to know about the working principle, how the visual marks are sonified using the optical head. > > Thank you, > > Ita. > --Boundary_(ID_SAvkS3NyfC9aocayTv7rjg) Content-type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable <html><head></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; = -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; = "><div><br></div><div><a = href=3D"http://www.amazon.com/Norman-McLaren-Masters-Grant-Munro/dp/B000H7= J9OY">http://www.amazon.com/Norman-McLaren-Masters-Grant-Munro/dp/B000H7J9= OY</a></div><div>The McLaren DVD set (7 DVDs).</div><div>There is also = information on the techniques used.</div><div><br></div><div>A = particular example:</div><div><a = href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DJqz_tx1-xd4">http://www.youtube.c= om/watch?v=3DJqz_tx1-xd4</a></div><div>and more on = YouTube</div><div><br></div><div>As I understand it, most [all?] of his = work was done with variable area optical tracks (as distinct from = variable = density).</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Kevin</div><div><br></di= v><div><br></div><br><div><div>On 2010, Dec 28, at 2:02 PM, ita katz = wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote = type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Sam and thanks for the = details.<br><br>Generally I am interested in both, but particularly I am = interested in the work of the Canadian animator Norman Mclaren, who used = the Moviola to synthesize musical soundtrack to his animation. I plan to = investigate the sound production mechanism of the optical pickup (since = I find the sound very interesting), and I guess it is mainly influenced = by the coupling to the electronic circuit and the electronic circuit = itself, producing the unique 'analog' feel of the sound. So any further = information (in addition to your suggestions) in that direction would be = helpful.<br> <br>Ita.<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 8:20 = PM, Sam Jelfs <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a = href=3D"mailto:JelfsS1@xxxxxxxx">JelfsS1@xxxxxxxx</a>&gt;</span>= wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin-top: 0px; = margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0.8ex; = border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); = border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex; position: static; z-index: = auto; "> <div link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple" lang=3D"EN-GB"> <div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span = style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">Ita,</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span = style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">Are you interested in the Moviola particularly, or optical audio in general? = If the latter, then &nbsp;</span><a = href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movie_projector#Optical" = target=3D"_blank"><span = style=3D"color:windowtext">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movie_projector#Op= tical</span></a> has a good basic intro to how traditional optical-encoded amplitude = modulation works, as well as more modern Dolby Digital / SDDS / DTS digital-optical = audio encoding. You may find more luck searching using terms such as "sound-on-film".</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sound Recording Practice (ed. = John Borwick) (<a = href=3D"http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sound-Recording-Practice-John-Borwick/dp/0= 198166087/ref=3Dsr_1_1?ie=3DUTF8&amp;qid=3D1293560292&amp;sr=3D8-1" = target=3D"_blank">http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sound-Recording-Practice-John-Bo= rwick/dp/0198166087/ref=3Dsr_1_1?ie=3DUTF8&amp;qid=3D1293560292&amp;sr=3D8= -1</a>) has a section on the technology used in audio reproduction for film as = well, might be worth looking in your library for.</p><div>Sam = Jelfs</div><div>&nbsp;</div> <div style=3D"border-right-style: none; border-bottom-style: none; = border-left-style: none; border-width: initial; border-color: initial; = border-top-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); = border-top-width: 1pt; padding-top: 3pt; padding-right: 0cm; = padding-bottom: 0cm; padding-left: 0cm; position: static; z-index: auto; = "><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt" = lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt" = lang=3D"EN-US"> AUDITORY - Research in Auditory Perception [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx" = target=3D"_blank">AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>ita = katz<br> <b>Sent:</b> 28 December 2010 15:55<br> <b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx" = target=3D"_blank">AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx</a><br> <b>Subject:</b> [AUDITORY] Sound head of the = 'Moviola'</span></p></div><div><div class=3D"h5"> <div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hello,<br> <br> I am looking for information about the optical sound head of the = movie-editing machine called 'Moviola'. <a = href=3D"http://www.alangordon.com/sales/used_equipment/editing_equipment/m= oviola_ud-20-cs.html" = target=3D"_blank">http://www.alangordon.com/sales/used_equipment/editing_e= quipment/moviola_ud-20-cs.html</a><br> <br> Specifically I would like to know about the working principle, how the = visual marks are sonified using the optical head.<br> <br> Thank you,<br> <br> Ita.</p></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div> </blockquote></div><br></body></html>= --Boundary_(ID_SAvkS3NyfC9aocayTv7rjg)--


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