Re: UNSUBSCRIBE (Al Bregman )

From:    Al Bregman  <al.bregman@xxxxxxxx>
Date:    Mon, 26 Mar 2012 07:58:27 -0400

Hi Stefan, Your suggestion is interesting, but I'm quite sure that it's much easier and more reliable to get the human sender to insert a simple phrase in the "Subject" field of the email, rather than develop intelligent software that could understand, from the content of the message, that this was a job offer. May I suggest that we try using the phrase "Position available" (without the quotes) as the first two words in the Subject field (no other constraints -- any words may follow), and see how it works out? Some people may choose to filter out these messages; others, like myself, may choose to group them, then read them. I'll set up a filter on my email (which ends up in Gmail) that will attach the label JOB-OFFER to any such message coming from AUDITORY and see if I manage to pick up all the job announcements. [To people unfamiliar with Gmail: A label in Gmail works like a folder in Outlook, except that a message can effectively be in two or more "folders" at the same time. Instead of looking in a specific folder, one searches one's messages by using a Boolean function of the labels (I'm not trying to sell Gmail, but I find it convenient,]. If people decide, after a while, that this constraint on the first two words in the Subject field of job announcements is too onerous, we can drop the idea. Best to all, Al ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Albert S. Bregman, Emeritus Professor Psychology Department, McGill University 1205 Doctor Penfield Avenue Montreal, QC, Canada H3A 1B1. Office:  Phone: (514) three-nine-eight-6103, Fax: (514) three-nine-eight-4896 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 3:19 AM, Stefan Muenkner <stefan.muenkner@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > perhaps there is sort of a compromise here: If the listserv software could > be persuaded to accept mails at auditory-joboffers@xxxxxxxx and forward/send > that to the auditory list with an additional/changed label (like > [AUDITORY-POSITION] or [AUDITORY] [POSITION AVALAIBLE]) it would not > generate any more list maintenance work, and it would supply a reliable > label that could be sorted easily by message filters > > > I am not certain whether that's possible with the listserv software though . > > > Cheers, > >  Stefan > > On 26.03.2012 05:19, Al Bregman wrote: >> Hi Camille, >> >> I have two thoughts about your proposal of a separate list for job >> position notices: >> >> 1.  It would require someone to set up and maintain such a list.  Are >> you volunteering? >> >> 2.  Job seekers would have to know that the list existed.  Right now, >> the AUDITORY list is fairly well known.  Also those of us who >> regularly read it will often re-direct the job notices to students and >> others who are not list members, and suggest that they join the list >> to receive future notices.  This is one way that new people hear about >> the list. >> >> Cheers, >> Al >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 1:49 PM, Peres, S. Camille <PeresSC@xxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> Another thought is to have a separate list serve for auditory related job postings. I know of at least two other organizations that do this. >>> >>> Cheers, Camille >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Mar 24, 2012, at 8:53 PM, "Al Bregman" <al.bregman@xxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Everybody, >>>> May I make the following suggestion to deal with the objection of some >>>> list members to receiving job notices?  People who were posting a job >>>> or position opening could start the Subject line of their posting with >>>> the phrase "Position available".  Those who didn't want to look at >>>> such postings could just set up a filter in their email programs to >>>> delete messages whose subject line contained this phrase or direct >>>> such messages to a separate folder. >>>> Best, >>>> Al >>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> Albert S. Bregman, Emeritus Professor >>>> Psychology Department, McGill University >>>> 1205 Doctor Penfield Avenue >>>> Montreal, QC, Canada H3A 1B1. >>>> Office:  Phone: (514) 398-6103, Fax: (514) 398-4896 >>>> >>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 8:35 PM, Bruno L. Giordano >>>> <bruno.giordano@xxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> Some numbers are never a bad idea. >>>>> >>>>> Barry is right in observing an accelerating job-posting trend (see figure; >>>>> 2012 is rough expected number of messages with either job or position or >>>>> professor in subject). I was expecting a valley of death around 2008, but I >>>>> see only a tiny meaningless dip. >>>>> >>>>> This trend is comforting to myself and to many individuals: I do hope it >>>>> keeps up, at least until I find my dream job ;-) >>>>> >>>>>        Bruno >>>>> >>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>>> Bruno L. Giordano, PhD >>>>> Voice Neurocognition Laboratory (CCNi, Glasgow Univ) & >>>>> Affiliate member of Music Research Dept. (McGill Univ, Montréal) >>>>> URL: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 24/03/2012 10:42 PM, Marcelo Caetano wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello everyone, >>>>>> I don`t want to be rude or create any problems, but I happen to think >>>>>> that if someone just wants to leave the list, all the person needs to do >>>>>> is follow the instructions on (copied below for >>>>>> >>>>>> reference). I had the impression that Barry also wanted us to know the >>>>>> reason he chose to leave. Even though I don`t think this alone is a >>>>>> reason for remarks, I do believe it to be a good topic for discussion. >>>>>> Marcelo >>>>>> >>>>>> PS. In time, I found my current postdoc position here >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>    Joining and leaving the AUDITORY list >>>>>> >>>>>> By joining the AUDITORY email list, you will receive all the postings >>>>>> via email, and you will be able to contribute to the discussions. You >>>>>> can join the list by filling in the form on the AUDITORY membership >>>>>> questionnaire <>. >>>>>> >>>>>> Subscribed members can leave the AUDITORY list, or modify their current >>>>>> details (including email address) by visiting their private AUDITORY >>>>>> information edit page, and selecting the "no messages" option at the >>>>>> bottom of that page. Please refer to the message you received when >>>>>> joining the list for the URL of the edit page, or you can contact me to >>>>>> retrieve it for you >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>  ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>    *De:* Al Bregman <al.bregman@xxxxxxxx> >>>>>>    *Para:* AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx >>>>>>    *Enviadas:* Sexta-feira, 23 de Março de 2012 9:41 >>>>>>    *Assunto:* Re: [AUDITORY] UNSUBSCRIBE >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>    Dear Tony, >>>>>> >>>>>>    I think that all Barry requested was to be removed from the list, not >>>>>>    that we discontinue the notices of available positions. I think we >>>>>>    can honor his request without eliminating the job notices, which I >>>>>>    agree are very useful. >>>>>> >>>>>>    Al >>>>>> >>>>>>  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>    Albert S. Bregman, Emeritus Professor >>>>>>    Psychology Department, McGill University >>>>>>    1205 Doctor Penfield Avenue >>>>>>    Montreal, QC, Canada H3A 1B1. >>>>>>    Office: Phone: (514) 398-6103, Fax: (514) 398-4896 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>    On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 8:07 PM, Tony Miller >>>>>>    <antonio.miller@xxxxxxxx <mailto:antonio.miller@xxxxxxxx>> wrote: >>>>>>     > Easy to say for someone who hasn't had to look for a position since >>>>>>     > 1971. I say keep the job postings. There is nothing frivolous about >>>>>>     > getting students into academic or industrial positions. >>>>>>     > >>>>>>     > -Tony >>>>>>     > >>>>>>     > On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 1:40 PM, Barry Vercoe <bv@xxxxxxxx >>>>>>    <mailto:bv@xxxxxxxx>> wrote: >>>>>>     >> Please remove me from ALL Auditory mailing lists. It has become >>>>>>    a jobs >>>>>>     >> advertising list and is jamming up my mail box. This is too bad. >>>>>>     >> -- barry vercoe, MIT >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> > > > -- >  Stefan Münkner >  FR 2.5 Biophysik >  Universität des Saarlandes >  Campus Homburg >  Gebäude 76 >  D-66421 Homburg/Saar > .................................................. > phone +49 6841 16-26222     fax   +49 6841 16-26211 >

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