Re: exploitation of "Auditory List" as a free "Article Request" list (Andreas Widmann )

Subject: Re: exploitation of "Auditory List" as a free "Article Request" list
From:    Andreas Widmann  <widmann@xxxxxxxx>
Date:    Mon, 6 Aug 2012 14:22:28 +0200

Why not requesting a (PDF) reprint directly from the author(s)? It was not so challenging to find the senior author's mail address by a Google search. Best, Andreas Am 06.08.2012 um 14:09 schrieb Tom Barker <thomas.barker@xxxxxxxx>: > Brian's position is understandable. Creating too much noise from constant article requests reduces the ability for useful discussion on the list. > > From a selfish point of view, it is simply more efficient to request an unavailable (on my university's library subscription) article here, and receive responses within a few minutes, than to travel to the other university or public library in my city and work out how the request system works there. > > There is also the (serious) issue of intellectual property rights. I personally feel uncomfortable with a request for a PDF of an entire book here. Clearly, in most jurisdictions, photocopying an entire book is not legal. This list is a useful resource, and it is unfair on the list owners (located in the US) to subject them to any liability for the lists misuse in this regard. > > I am not sure about the general case of copying of a single journal or conference paper, but in the UK I believe it was acceptable to copy a single book chapter, conference paper or journal article within the University. Electronic transmission might be treated differently, but I would advise against anyone fulfilling requests directly to the list, instead posting directly to the address of anyone requesting the article. > > Requests for articles may raise general awareness of interesting publications, and this is definitely one benefit from posting requests here. > > Tom > > On 06/08/12 14:38, Marcelo Caetano wrote: >> Dear Brian and members of the list, >> I disagree with Brian's characterization of article requests as "rather excessive use of this list for obtaining articles". Personally, I have a hunch that the frequent article requests might better reflect flaws in the library system (amongs others) rather than plain laziness. >> >> Unfortunately, I don't have data to confirm this impression (does anyone?). However, we usually see immediate responses to article requests made on the list, in opposition to the alternatives Brian points out. Ultimately, I feel that this discussion is very in line with ongoing debates on issues about intellectual and property rights, and I think we all could very much benefit from actively engaging in it. >> >> Marcelo Caetano >> >> De: Brian FG Katz <brian.katz@xxxxxxxx> >> Para: AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx >> Enviadas: Segunda-feira, 6 de Agosto de 2012 11:57 >> Assunto: [AUDITORY] exploitation of "Auditory List" as a free "Article Request" list >> >> Dear list members, >> >> I would like to bring to people's attention the rather excessive use of this >> list for obtaining articles. While I understand that some articles may be >> hard to find, being old, or in obscure journals, the constant flow of >> requests for articles that are clearly available, albeit for a fee, is >> something of an abuse of the list and also the library system. >> >> Student especially should profit from the systems in place at their >> respective institutions, and if need be actually go to a library. Many >> libraries also offer article retrieval services, which should be *fully* >> exploited before make a global request to the open community. >> >> Students are also encouraged to contact the authors directly to obtain >> difficult articles, as a means of expressing interest, and possibly opening >> a dialog. >> >> Only as a last resort should the list be used as a resource for "freely" >> obtaining your bibliographic references. >> >> Cordially, >> >> -Brian FG Katz >> -- >> Brian FG Katz, Ph.D >> Audio & Acoustique >> LIMSI-CNRS >> BP 133 >> F91403 Orsay >> France >> tel. (+33) 01 69 85 81 55 >> fax. (+33) >> e-mail Brian.Katz@xxxxxxxx <mailto:Brian.Katz@xxxxxxxx> >> web_theme: >> web_group: >> >> >

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