Re: exploitation of "Auditory List" as a free "Article Request" list (Dan Ellis )

Subject: Re: exploitation of "Auditory List" as a free "Article Request" list
From:    Dan Ellis  <dpwe@xxxxxxxx>
Date:    Mon, 6 Aug 2012 13:21:08 -0400

Dear List - I am forwarding on the attached message from Dick Lyon which appears to have been intercepted by the Listserv system. For the record, I agree that trying to codify "rules" is probably clumsy and ineffective. If people exercise their own judgment in not responding to requests that seem "abusive", then I hope the system will indeed self-regulate. Personally, I find it hard not to be pleased by, and sympathetic to, any instance in which someone is actually interested in reading a particular article in our field! Best, DAn. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Richard F. Lyon" <DickLyon@xxxxxxxx> To: Iftikhar Nizami <nizamii2@xxxxxxxx>, AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx Cc: Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 09:10:26 -0700 Subject: Re: exploitation of "Auditory List" as a free "Article Request" list The free email for members at and does not include free access to journal articles, nor does it imply any other connection than membership. I agree about the outrageous practices of the journals, including those from orgs that I'm a member of, but as long as the law is what it is, we should be careful about publicly violating it or asking others to do so. I think the positions we heard about not abusing the system are appropriate. On the other hand, I'm happy to share what I have, and often happy to ask for copies of what others come up with. When I'm looking for a paper, I go first through the paywall (my employer covers it), which is usually the quickest and surest way to get what I'm looking for. Dick

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