Re: Longcat AudioStage (Brian FG Katz )


Subject: Re: Longcat AudioStage
From:    Brian FG Katz  <brian.katz@xxxxxxxx>
Date:    Sat, 15 Sep 2012 18:40:17 +0200
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This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00DC_01CD9371.8D80FA00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Frederik, =20 Sorry, but that isn=92t enough information. It is useful to know what = you are actually try to do. For example, here are some starting questions : 1) Single source, several sources, many sources? 2) Range of angles of interest: any desired position on the full sphere, limited positions on most of the sphere, how high and how low 3) Distance rendering: accurate range needed? Distance <1 from the head? 4) Source trajectories or fixed positions? 5) Room effect or anechoic conditions? 6) Real-time or off-line? 7) Head-tracking integration possible or not? 8) PC platform (Win/Mac/Linux)? 9) Your programming skill level (turn-key system, MaxMSP patching, MatLab coding)? 10) Headphone equalization? 11) Price range possible? 12) Lab setting or installation art?=20 =20 -- Brian FG Katz, Ph.D Audio & Acoustique LIMSI-CNRS BP 133 F91403 Orsay France tel. (+33) 01 69 85 81 55 fax. (+33) 01.69.85.80.88 e-mail <mailto:Brian.Katz@xxxxxxxx> Brian.Katz@xxxxxxxx < <mailto:Brian.Katz@xxxxxxxx> mailto:Brian.Katz@xxxxxxxx> web_theme: <http://www.limsi.fr/Scientifique/aa/thmsonesp/> http://www.limsi.fr/Scientifique/aa/thmsonesp/ web_group: <http://www.limsi.fr/Scientifique/aa/> http://www.limsi.fr/Scientifique/aa/ =20 =20 =20 De : AUDITORY - Research in Auditory Perception [mailto:AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx De la part de Frederik Nielbo Envoy=E9 : samedi 15 septembre 2012 14:27 =C0 : AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx Objet : Re: [AUDITORY] Longcat AudioStage =20 Dear Brian and others, What I am looking for is simply some software that allows me to produce auditory stimuli, enabling me to present it binaurally in stereo = headphones. I need to be able to control the virtual position rather precise. Thank you, Ga=EBtan, I will definitely look into that! Best regards, Frederik 2012/9/14 Brian Katz <brian.katz@xxxxxxxx> What are you actually wanting to do? This will greatly affect your = choice, and there a numerous ones out there with VERY different results and constraints.=20 -Brian FG Katz LIMSI-CNRS =20 On 14 sept. 2012, at 15:07, Frederik Nielbo <frederiknielbo@xxxxxxxx> wrote: Dear list, =20 I am wondering if any of you have experiences with Longcat AudioStage in your work with audio spatialization - is this the best software = available, are there any major limitations, what are the alternatives, etc.? =20 Best regards, Frederik Nielbo Center for Semiotics Aarhus University =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_00DC_01CD9371.8D80FA00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html xmlns:v=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" = xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns:m=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" = xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"><head><meta = http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"><meta name=3DGenerator content=3D"Microsoft Word = 14 (filtered medium)"><style><!-- /* Font Definitions */ @xxxxxxxx {font-family:Calibri; panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} @xxxxxxxx {font-family:Tahoma; panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;} /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {margin:0cm; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {mso-style-priority:99; color:blue; text-decoration:underline;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {mso-style-priority:99; color:purple; text-decoration:underline;} p.MsoListParagraph, li.MsoListParagraph, div.MsoListParagraph {mso-style-priority:34; margin-top:0cm; margin-right:0cm; margin-bottom:0cm; margin-left:36.0pt; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";} span.EmailStyle17 {mso-style-type:personal-reply; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D;} .MsoChpDefault {mso-style-type:export-only; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";} @xxxxxxxx WordSection1 {size:612.0pt 792.0pt; margin:70.85pt 70.85pt 70.85pt 70.85pt;} div.WordSection1 {page:WordSection1;} /* List Definitions */ @xxxxxxxx l0 {mso-list-id:1316641376; mso-list-type:hybrid; mso-list-template-ids:-59617764 67698705 67698713 67698715 67698703 = 67698713 67698715 67698703 67698713 67698715;} @xxxxxxxx l0:level1 {mso-level-text:"%1\)"; mso-level-tab-stop:none; mso-level-number-position:left; text-indent:-18.0pt;} @xxxxxxxx l0:level2 {mso-level-number-format:alpha-lower; mso-level-tab-stop:none; mso-level-number-position:left; text-indent:-18.0pt;} @xxxxxxxx l0:level3 {mso-level-number-format:roman-lower; mso-level-tab-stop:none; mso-level-number-position:right; text-indent:-9.0pt;} @xxxxxxxx l0:level4 {mso-level-tab-stop:none; mso-level-number-position:left; text-indent:-18.0pt;} @xxxxxxxx l0:level5 {mso-level-number-format:alpha-lower; mso-level-tab-stop:none; mso-level-number-position:left; text-indent:-18.0pt;} @xxxxxxxx l0:level6 {mso-level-number-format:roman-lower; mso-level-tab-stop:none; mso-level-number-position:right; text-indent:-9.0pt;} @xxxxxxxx l0:level7 {mso-level-tab-stop:none; mso-level-number-position:left; text-indent:-18.0pt;} @xxxxxxxx l0:level8 {mso-level-number-format:alpha-lower; mso-level-tab-stop:none; mso-level-number-position:left; text-indent:-18.0pt;} @xxxxxxxx l0:level9 {mso-level-number-format:roman-lower; mso-level-tab-stop:none; mso-level-number-position:right; text-indent:-9.0pt;} ol {margin-bottom:0cm;} ul {margin-bottom:0cm;} --></style><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapedefaults v:ext=3D"edit" spidmax=3D"1026" /> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapelayout v:ext=3D"edit"> <o:idmap v:ext=3D"edit" data=3D"1" /> </o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=3DEN-US link=3Dblue = vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497= D'>Dear Frederik,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497= D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497= D'>Sorry, but that isn&#8217;t enough information. It is useful to know = what you are actually try to do. For example, here are some starting = questions :<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoListParagraph = style=3D'text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if = !supportLists]><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497= D'><span style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>1)<span style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times = New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; = </span></span></span><![endif]><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497= D'>Single source, several sources, many sources?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p = class=3DMsoListParagraph style=3D'text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 = lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497= D'><span style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>2)<span style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times = New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; = </span></span></span><![endif]><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497= D'>Range of angles of interest: any desired position on the full sphere, = limited positions on most of the sphere, how high and how = low<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoListParagraph = style=3D'text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if = !supportLists]><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497= D'><span style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>3)<span style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times = New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; = </span></span></span><![endif]><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497= D'>Distance rendering: accurate range needed? Distance &lt;1 from the = head?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoListParagraph = style=3D'text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if = !supportLists]><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497= D'><span style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>4)<span style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times = New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; = </span></span></span><![endif]><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497= D'>Source trajectories or fixed positions?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p = class=3DMsoListParagraph style=3D'text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 = lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497= D'><span style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>5)<span style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times = New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; = </span></span></span><![endif]><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497= D'>Room effect or anechoic conditions?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p = class=3DMsoListParagraph style=3D'text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 = lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497= D'><span style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>6)<span style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times = New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; = </span></span></span><![endif]><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497= D'>Real-time or off-line?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p = class=3DMsoListParagraph style=3D'text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 = lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497= D'><span style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>7)<span style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times = New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; = </span></span></span><![endif]><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497= D'>Head-tracking integration possible or not?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p = class=3DMsoListParagraph style=3D'text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 = lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497= D'><span style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>8)<span style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times = New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; = </span></span></span><![endif]><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497= D'>PC platform (Win/Mac/Linux)?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p = class=3DMsoListParagraph style=3D'text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 = lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497= D'><span style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>9)<span style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times = New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; = </span></span></span><![endif]><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497= D'>Your programming skill level (turn-key system, MaxMSP patching, = MatLab coding)?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoListParagraph = style=3D'text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if = !supportLists]><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497= D'><span style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>10)<span style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times = New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><![endif]><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497= D'>Headphone equalization?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p = class=3DMsoListParagraph style=3D'text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 = lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497= D'><span style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>11)<span style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times = New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><![endif]><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497= D'>Price range possible?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p = class=3DMsoListParagraph style=3D'text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 = lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497= D'><span style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>12)<span style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times = New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><![endif]><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497= D'>Lab setting or installation art? <o:p></o:p></span></p><p = class=3DMsoListParagraph><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497= D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'= >--<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'= >Brian FG Katz, Ph.D<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'= >Audio &amp; Acoustique<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'= >LIMSI-CNRS<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'= >BP 133<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'= >F91403 Orsay<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'= >France<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'= >tel. 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I need to be able to control the = virtual position rather precise.<br><br>Thank you, Ga=EBtan, I will = definitely look into that!<br><br>Best = regards,<br>Frederik<br><br>2012/9/14 Brian Katz &lt;<a = href=3D"mailto:brian.katz@xxxxxxxx" = target=3D"_blank">brian.katz@xxxxxxxx</a>&gt;<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><di= v><blockquote style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC = 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm = 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal>What are you actually wanting to do? This will greatly = affect your choice, and there a numerous ones out there with VERY = different results and constraints.&nbsp;<br><br>-Brian FG = Katz<o:p></o:p></p><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal>LIMSI-CNRS<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On 14 sept. 2012, = at 15:07, Frederik Nielbo &lt;<a = href=3D"mailto:frederiknielbo@xxxxxxxx" = target=3D"_blank">frederiknielbo@xxxxxxxx</a>&gt; = wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote = style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal>Dear list,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I = am wondering if any of you have experiences with Longcat AudioStage in = your work with audio spatialization - is this the best software = available, are there any major limitations, what are the alternatives, = etc.?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal>Best regards,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal>Frederik Nielbo<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#666666'>Center for = Semiotics</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'color:#666666'>Aarhus = University</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote></div></blockquo= te></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div></div></div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div></body></html> ------=_NextPart_000_00DC_01CD9371.8D80FA00--


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