Subject: Re: [AUDITORY] Note durations in music From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Pawe=B3_Ku=B6mierek?= <pawel.kusmierek@xxxxxxxx> Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 09:59:38 -0400 List-Archive:<http://lists.mcgill.ca/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=AUDITORY>--089e0153686c48dd6504df098c06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Aniruddh, I don't know of any published distributions of note durations, though I would be surprised if many musicologists have not performed this type of analysis. But, there are several ways to obtain such distributions, depending on whether you need distribution of durations in the score (as written by the composer, A) or of an actual performance with durations varying for expressive purposes (B). First, it is usually easy to find downloadable MIDI files of many pieces. These can be imported into Matlab either using your own script (AFAIR MIDI file format is pretty straightforward) or any of downloadable tools (Google says there is a choice). Then it will be easy to do any statistical analysis. Depending on how the MIDI file was created, you will get either A or B. You can also can manually get the note duration off the score; many scores of older (i.e., not copyrighted anymore) are available at http://imslp.org(including your example Prelude), some are at http://www.dlib.indiana.edu/variations/scores/. This will obviously give you B only. Finally, A can be obtained by reading note durations off waveform and spectrogram of a recording, this would be most time-consuming though. Also, please be advised that a lot of solo violin and cello music, including the Prelude you used as an example, does contain multiple notes played simultaneously. Hope that helps, Pawel On 12 June 2013 16:07, Patel, Aniruddh D. <a.patel@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > Dear list,**** > > ** ** > > I=92m trying to find papers which report measurements of two aspects of n= ote > duration in solo instrumental monophonic music (e.g., recordings of solo > violin, cello, trumpet, clarinet, flute, etc. =96 not piano, guitar, or o= ther > instruments that can play multiple notes simultaneously).**** > > ** ** > > **1. **The average duration of notes in a piece**** > > **2. **A histogram of note durations in the piece**** > > ** ** > > Thus for example this solo cello prelude by JS Bach last about 4 minutes > and contains N notes (anybody know?), so the average note duration in thi= s > piece is about N/240 notes/sec. **** > > ** ** > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DdtLKjeEssAo**** > > ** ** > > If one could measure the duration of each note in this recording, then on= e > could plot the histogram of note durations in the piece.**** > > ** ** > > Is anyone aware of such data for any solo monophonic instrument? Musical > style doesn=92t matter (can be classical, folk, etc.). > > Thanks,**** > > ** ** > > Ani Patel**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > Aniruddh D. Patel**** > > Associate Professor**** > > Dept. of Psychology > Tufts University**** > > 490 Boston Ave.**** > > Medford, MA 02115**** > > ** ** > > a.patel@xxxxxxxx**** > > http://ase.tufts.edu/psychology/peoplePatel.htm**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > --089e0153686c48dd6504df098c06 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Dear Aniruddh,</div><div>=A0</div><div>I don't kn= ow of any published distributions of note durations, though I would be surp= rised if many musicologists have not performed this type of analysis.</div>= <div> =A0</div><div>But, there are several ways to obtain such distributions, dep= ending on whether you need distribution of durations in the score (as writt= en by the composer, A) or of an actual performance with durations varying f= or expressive purposes (B).</div> <div>=A0</div><div>First, it is usually easy to find downloadable MIDI file= s of many pieces. These can be imported into Matlab either using your own s= cript (AFAIR MIDI file format is pretty straightforward) or any of download= able tools (Google says there is a choice). Then it will be easy to do any = statistical analysis. Depending on how the MIDI file was created, you will = get either A or B.</div> <div>=A0</div><div>You can also can manually get the note duration off the = score; many scores of older (i.e., not copyrighted anymore) are available a= t <a href=3D"http://imslp.org">http://imslp.org</a> (including your example= Prelude), some are at <a href=3D"http://www.dlib.indiana.edu/variations/sc= ores/">http://www.dlib.indiana.edu/variations/scores/</a>. This will obviou= sly give you B only.</div> <div>=A0</div><div>Finally, A can be obtained by reading note durations off= waveform and spectrogram of a recording, this would be most time-consuming= though.</div><div>=A0</div><div>Also, please be advised that a lot of solo= violin and cello music, including the Prelude you used as an example, does= contain multiple notes played simultaneously.</div> <div>=A0</div><div>Hope that helps,</div><div>=A0</div><div>Pawel</div><div= >=A0</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quot= e">On 12 June 2013 16:07, Patel, Aniruddh D. <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href= =3D"mailto:a.patel@xxxxxxxx" target=3D"_blank">a.patel@xxxxxxxx</a>></= span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p= x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div lang=3D"EN-US" vlink=3D"purple" link=3D"blue"> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Dear list,<u></u><u></u></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=A0<u></u></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">I=92m trying to find papers which report measurement= s of two aspects of note duration in solo instrumental monophonic music (e.= g., recordings of solo violin, cello, trumpet, clarinet, flute, etc. =96 no= t piano, guitar, or other instruments that can play multiple notes simultaneously).<u></u><u></u></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=A0<u></u></p> <p><u></u><span>1.<span style=3D"font:7pt/normal "Times New Roman"= ;;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal">=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 </span></span><u></u>The average duration of notes in a piece<u></u><u></u>= </p> <p><u></u><span>2.<span style=3D"font:7pt/normal "Times New Roman"= ;;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal">=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 </span></span><u></u>A histogram of note durations in the piece<u></u><u></= u></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=A0<u></u></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thus for example this solo cello prelude by JS Bach = last about 4 minutes and contains N notes (anybody know?), so the average n= ote duration in this piece is about N/240 notes/sec.=A0=A0 <u></u><u></u></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=A0<u></u></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DdtLKjeEs= sAo" target=3D"_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DdtLKjeEssAo</a><u><= /u><u></u></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=A0<u></u></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">If one could measure the duration of each note in th= is recording, then one could plot the histogram of note durations in the pi= ece.<u></u><u></u></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=A0<u></u></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Is anyone aware of such data for any solo monophonic= instrument?=A0 Musical style doesn=92t matter (can be classical, folk, etc= .).=A0 <br> <br> Thanks,<u></u><u></u></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=A0<u></u></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Ani Patel<u></u><u></u></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=A0<u></u></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=A0<u></u></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Aniruddh D. Patel<u></u><u></u></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Associate Professor<u></u><u></u></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Dept. of Psychology<br> Tufts University<u></u><u></u></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">490 Boston Ave.<u></u><u></u></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Medford, MA 02115<u></u><u></u></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=A0<u></u></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"mailto:a.patel@xxxxxxxx" target=3D"_blan= k">a.patel@xxxxxxxx</a><u></u><u></u></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"http://ase.tufts.edu/psychology/peoplePat= el.htm" target=3D"_blank">http://ase.tufts.edu/psychology/peoplePatel.htm</= a><u></u><u></u></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=A0<u></u></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=A0<u></u></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=A0<u></u></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=A0<u></u></p> </div> </div> </blockquote></div><br></div> --089e0153686c48dd6504df098c06--