Re: [AUDITORY] PESQ and other speech quality algorithms (Christine Rankovic )

Subject: Re: [AUDITORY] PESQ and other speech quality algorithms From: Christine Rankovic <rankovic@xxxxxxxx> Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2013 08:28:36 -0400 List-Archive:<http://lists.mcgill.ca/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=AUDITORY> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01CE89DA.1FCA71C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Graham: Thank you for addressing this. Somehow I had the idea that because the ITU is a United Nations agency, its work is freely available to all, or at least to those countries having UN membership. Christine Rankovic -----Original Message----- From: AUDITORY - Research in Auditory Perception [mailto:AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx On Behalf Of Graham Paul Rousell Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 1:01 PM To: AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx Subject: Re: PESQ and other speech quality algorithms Dear Nicolas, Thank you for your very detailed and precise response. My apologies for not being able to come in earlier on these posts. Yes, in summary, publication within a book of previously copyrighted material is itself an infringement of copyright, and then the fact that patents may be incorporated within that is further infringement. If the code within Loizou's Speech Enhancement book does not use the same code or patents then this might not be an infringement (other than trade name). I would hope so since to the best of our knowledge Mathworks don't have a license agreement to be able to publish or distribute PESQ. Regardless of source or application it is everyone's liability to care about third parties' intellectual property rights, whether they are patents, copyrights or trademarks. There are various examples that could be considered, but probably that of pharmaceutical R&D is most analogous here. Papers are published all the time of copyrighted and patented material, but it is very well understood that those developments are strongly defended if there is ever indication of infringement. Once again, I will say that the offer is there, to use a fully conformant time limited version of PESQ, for qualified academic purposes, on application from OPTICOM. Best regards, Graham Graham Rousell Business Development Tel: +49 9131 5302022 ____________________________________________________________ O P T I C O M - The Perceptual Quality Experts. ____________________________________________________________ OPTICOM Dipl.-Ing. M. Keyhl GmbH Naegelsbachstrasse 38, D-91052 Erlangen, GERMANY Phone: +49 9131 53020-0, Fax: +49 9131 53020-20 <mailto:info@xxxxxxxx> info@xxxxxxxx <http://www.opticom.de> www.opticom.de ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01CE89DA.1FCA71C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html xmlns:v=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" = xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns:m=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" = xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"><head><meta = http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dus-ascii"><meta name=3DGenerator content=3D"Microsoft Word 12 = (filtered medium)"><style></style></head><body lang=3DEN-US link=3Dblue = vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1>Dear = Graham:<o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p>Thank you for addressing this.  Somehow I had = the idea that because the ITU is a United Nations agency, its work is = freely available to all, or at least to those countries having UN = membership.<o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p>Christine Rankovic<o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p><o:p> </o:p>-----Original Message----- From: AUDITORY - = Research in Auditory Perception [mailto:AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx On = Behalf Of Graham Paul Rousell Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 1:01 = PM To: AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx Subject: Re: PESQ and other speech = quality algorithms<o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p>Dear = Nicolas,<o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p>Thank you for your very detailed and precise = response.  My apologies for not being able to come in earlier on = these posts.<o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p><o:p> </o:p><o:p> </o:p>Yes, = in summary, publication within a book of previously copyrighted = <o:p></o:p>material is itself an = infringement of copyright, and then the fact that <o:p></o:p>patents may be incorporated within that is further = infringement. If the <o:p></o:p>code within = Loizou's Speech Enhancement book does not use the same code or = <o:p></o:p>patents then this might not be an = infringement (other than trade name).  I <o:p></o:p>would hope so since to the best of our knowledge = Mathworks don't have a <o:p></o:p>license = agreement to be able to publish or distribute PESQ. <o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p>Regardless of source or application it is = everyone's liability to care <o:p></o:p>about third parties' intellectual property rights, = whether they are <o:p></o:p>patents, = copyrights or trademarks.<o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p><o:p> </o:p><o:p> </o:p>There = are various examples that could be considered, but probably that of = <o:p></o:p>pharmaceutical R&D is most = analogous here. Papers are published all the <o:p></o:p>time of copyrighted and patented material, but it = is very well understood <o:p></o:p>that = those developments are strongly defended if there is ever indication = <o:p></o:p>of infringement.<o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p><o:p> </o:p><o:p> </o:p>Once = again, I will say that the offer is there, to use a fully conformant = <o:p></o:p>time limited version of PESQ, for = qualified academic purposes, on <o:p></o:p>application from OPTICOM. <o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p><o:p> </o:p><o:p> </o:p>Best = regards,<o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p><o:p> </o:p><o:p> </o:p>Graham<o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p><o:p> </o:p><o:p> </o:p><o:p> </o:p><o:p> </o:p><o:p> </o:p><o:p> </o:p>Graham = Rousell<o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p>Business Development<o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p><o:p> </o:p><o:p> </o:p>Tel: = +49 9131 5302022<o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p>____________________________________________________= ________<o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p><o:p> </o:p><o:p> </o:p>O P T = I C O M    -    The Perceptual Quality = Experts.<o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p>____________________________________________________= ________<o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p> <o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p>OPTICOM Dipl.-Ing. M. Keyhl GmbH<o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p>Naegelsbachstrasse 38, D-91052 Erlangen, = GERMANY<o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p>Phone: +49 9131 53020-0, Fax: +49 9131 = 53020-20<o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p><a href=3D"mailto:info@xxxxxxxx">info@xxxxxxxx</a= >          <a = href=3D"http://www.opticom.de">www.opticom.de</a>= <o:p></o:p></div></body></html> ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01CE89DA.1FCA71C0--

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