Re: [AUDITORY] How to speak to people about hearing loss and high sound pressure levels (Helen Simon )


Subject: Re: [AUDITORY] How to speak to people about hearing loss and high sound pressure levels
From:    Helen Simon  <helen@xxxxxxxx>
Date:    Mon, 14 Oct 2013 14:14:50 -0700
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--Apple-Mail-3--248835159 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 THere is a group in San Francisco, H.E.A.R. (http://www.hearnet.com/) = that has been in\volved in educating rockers and audiences all over the = country about hearing loss and noise exposure since 1988. The group was = started by Kathy Peck and Flash Gordon, M.D. (yes, that is his name). = In fact, this weekend they were at a music festival on Treasure Island = educating the audience. Also, carry ear protection when you go out to = events. Simple over the counter ear plugs give about 28 dB attenuation. = Better than vaseline and cotton! Helen Here is a blurb from their website. =20 H.E.A.R.'s mission is the prevention of hearing loss and tinnitus among = musicians and music fans (especially teens) through education awareness = and grassroots outreach advocacy. H.E.A.R. Hearing Education and Awareness for Rockers is a non-profit 501 = (c) (3) organization dedicated to raising awareness of the real dangers = of repeated exposure to excessive noise levels from music which can lead = to permanent, and sometimes debilitating, hearing loss and tinnitus. = Damage from loud sound can occur from playing music, attending concerts, = dance clubs, raves, using stereo earphones, playing amplified systems = too loudly, or other noisy activities. We're here for musicians, DJs, = sound engineers, music fans (especially teens) and anyone needing help = with their hearing. H.E.A.R. got started in l988 when rock and roll musician Kathy Peck = joined forces with local physicanFlash Gordon, M.D. in San Francisco. = After attending an excessively loud concert, Kathy and Flash decided to = address the problems and dangers of loud music. As a former bass player = and singer for the San Francisco rock band The Contractions, Kathy had = suffered hearing damage while playing a set at the Oakland Coliseum in = l984. The repeated exposure to excessive noise caused a ringing = sensation in her ears called tinnitus, as well as decreasing her ability = to hear. Though a professional and personal setback, the injury provided = the incentive for Kathy to throw her energies in a new direction. With = the help of Flash Gordon, Kathy launched H.E.A.R. H.E.A.R. receives no state or federal money and depends entirely on = contributions and private foundation donations. H.E.A.R. has been = recognized around the world for its diligent efforts both to educate the = public on the dangers of excessive noise, and to provide adequate = hearing protection for musicians and music fans. =46rom public service = announcements in mainstream media, to information and earplug tables at = concerts across the U.S., H.E.A.R. is dedicated to promoting awareness = of hearing damage. As a voice of concern between the music and medical = communities, we are determinded to make our message heard. H.E.A.R. = wants you to enjoy the music for a long, long time. Since our inception in 1988, H.E.A.R. has received support from some of = the most respected, popular, and influential names in the music and = medical industries. =46rom performers such as Pete Townshend of The Who, = Lars Ulrich of Metallica, and Les Claypool of Primus, to media giants = like MTV, Guitar Player Magazine, Bass Player Magazine, Keyboard = Magazine, and MIX Magazine; from medical groups such as The American = Speech-Language and Hearing Association, The American Academy of = Audiology, and The American Academy of Otolaryngology, Head and Neck = Surgery, to trade groups like the National Association of Music = Merchants, Audio Engineer Society, Consumer Electronics Association, as = well as The Recording Academy, TEC Foundation,Les Paul Foundation,The = Monterey Pop Festival,The Bill Graham Memorial Foundation, Mack's = Earplugs, Aearo Corporation, Westone, Etymotic Research,RPG, Virgin = Megastores , Ziljian, South by Southwest, Future Sonics, Shure and = Energizer. H.E.A.R. is recognized and supported as leading the charge = against preventable hearing damage. Hearnet is our interactive website that is updated regularly, providing = information and resources ontinnitus, hearing loss, hearing evaluation = referrals, hearing aids and assistive listening devices (ALD's), as well = as a referral service of audiology partners, ear doctors, and = entertainment links. In addition to distributing information, H.E.A.R. conducts hearing = evaluation clinics in the San Francisco Bay Area, as well as producing = school programs, and public service announcements with music celebrities = for national radio, TV and cable networks. H.E.A.R. has established = H.E.A.R. Affliates world wide. We want you to be part of the H.E.A.R.Story. We want you to have access = to our H.E.A.R. Partners for audiological and medical referrals; = entertainment and business links. Check out our public service = announcement with Lars Ulrich of Metallica. Look for "Can't Hear You = Knocking =A9" video. Stop by and see us when we're at concerts. Sign up = for our contests. Become a H.E.A.R. Partner sponsor. Whatever works for = you. Cruise around our site and and see what we've got for you. Check out our = Events Calendar, and see what concerts H.E.A.R. will be promoting and = when we'll be in your town. Hear what your favorite musicans are saying = over at Artists of the Month. Get info on hearing problems and resources = and find out if you're at risk. We'll be making noise and adding stuff = all the time, so make us a favorite stop when you're out on the web. = ROLLINGSTONE Magazine's Online Web Watch recommends HEARNET for sound = information on how to prevent hearing loss On Oct 13, 2013, at 6:05 AM, Bob Masta wrote: > Another line of "reasoning" is that "Hey, I've done this=20 > lots of times... sure, my ears ring for a while afterwards,=20 > and I can't hear so well, but by next morning I'm fine." >=20 > They think they have totally recovered, which is *proof*=20 > that the exposure was harmless, and you are just an old an=20 > old fuddy-duddy worry-wart. >=20 > I generally use the example of the late Joe Hawkins, who=20 > famously used himself as a TTS test subject back in the=20 > Early Days. He was convinced that led to (or at least=20 > accelerated) his later hearing loss. But that example=20 > typically "falls on deaf ears" when talking to young=20 > people... >=20 > Best regards, >=20 > Bob Masta >=20 >=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > On 13 Oct 2013 at 1:09, Kevin Austin wrote: >=20 >> An on-going topic -- very high level [dB] sounds, hearing loss, = personal and societal responsibility. >>=20 >> Once or twice a year I am invited and go to an event where the = sustained sound pressure [dB] levels will be in excess of 95dB, and = often into the 105 - 110+ dB range. I am usually long gone before the = levels have drifted up to this point, however they usually start in the = 85-90dB range. I use a combination of Vaseline [petroleum jelly], and = water- [spit-] soaked paper tissues / Kleenex, to seal my ear canals. At = the last two events I left, about 20% of the people were babies or = children under 7-9. They were=20 > brought close to the speaker stacks, and the younger children enjoyed = playing in front of the speakers. >>=20 >> My question is not one about NIHL etc, which is documented, but = rather one of how to speak to the people responsible, before and/or = after the event about the damage that is being caused by these = environments. If this were a work place, there would be laws, rules, = regulations and ways of changing the behavior. In these social = environments, rules and regulations don't apply. And I'm talking 3 or = more hours of continuous 105+dB. >>=20 >> There are currently two students in our university electroacoustic = studies program who have reported their hearing condition to me in some = detail, along with audiograms, and possible hyperacusis. Discussing this = with many younger people tends towards the "teenage invincibility = syndrome" [will never happen to me], and in older people, there is a = general ignorance or lack of understanding, often paired with an = attitude that indicates, "if it really is a problem, there would be laws = about it". There are. But, in=20 > my experience, there is a fundamental ignorance of what happens, and = what has been happening for the past 35 - 40 years. >>=20 >> As the professionals in the field, what can be done? and how can it = be done? Is it a matter of this "silent plague", simply eating up the = hearing of those who are under 40 such that they will not be able to = hear in 15 - 25 years. >>=20 >> Recently, this appeared: >>=20 >> Thu, 09/12/2013 >>>> Blake Wilson, Graeme Clark, and Ingeborg Hochmair were awarded the = Lasker Award this week for their contributions to the development of the = cochlear implant. The Lasker Award is essentially the American Nobel = prize, and this is an incredible recognition of not only the importance = of cochlear implant technology but also a much broader acknowledgment of = the importance of hearing and communication by the entire scientific = community. There will be several events over the next few months = building on this=20 > recognition with interviews with the Lasker awardees, a dedicated = one-hour show on PBS with Charlie Rose and Eric Kandel on hearing, and = finally a two-day workshop sponsored by the Institute of Medicine on = hearing loss in older adults in January. >>=20 >> It is noted that this seems to be mostly about cochlea-based hearing = loss in older adults. >>=20 >>=20 >> Other items on stem cell research growing back hair cells have been = seen in the media. However, these reports do not address a major cause = of the problem, exposure to high dB levels. As I understand it, this = developing technology may have little effect on tinnitus caused by nerve = damage. >>=20 >> Are there ways to have the media take cognizance of and report on the = dangerous environments which persist? >>=20 >> As professionals, is there any individual or group responsibility = regarding making this better known and the [likely] consequences more = clearly understood? Is this like the cigarette situation where the = 'evil' is not only socially acceptable, but expected so that the event = has 'street cred'? Club owners and Rave organizers want blood-letting = levels, "because the customers want it". >>=20 >>=20 >> Kevin >=20 > Bob Masta >=20 > D A Q A R T A > Data AcQuisition And Real-Time Analysis > www.daqarta.com > Scope, Spectrum, Spectrogram, Signal Generator > Science with your sound card! >=20 > --=20 > ----------------------------------------------------- > This message was checked for malware by the SKERI email filter.=20 Helen J. Simon, Ph.D. Smith-Kettlewell Eye Research Institute 2318 Fillmore St San Francisco, CA 94115 415-345-2071 (office) 415-345-2008 (lab) 415-345-8455 (fax) helen@xxxxxxxx --Apple-Mail-3--248835159 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 <html><head></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; = -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">THere = is a group in San Francisco, H.E.A.R. (<a = href=3D"http://www.hearnet.com/">http://www.hearnet.com/</a>) &nbsp;that = has been in\volved in educating rockers and audiences &nbsp;all over the = country about hearing loss and&nbsp;noise exposure since 1988. The group = was started by Kathy Peck and Flash Gordon, M.D. (yes, that is his = name). &nbsp; In fact, this weekend they were at a music festival on = Treasure Island educating the audience. &nbsp;Also, carry ear protection = when you go out to events. &nbsp;Simple over the counter ear plugs give = about 28 dB attenuation. &nbsp;Better than vaseline and = cotton!<div><br></div><div>Helen<br><div><br></div><div>Here is a blurb = from their website. &nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><p = style=3D"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; = font-size: 9pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); ">H.E.A.R.'s mission is the = prevention of hearing loss and tinnitus among musicians and music fans = (especially teens) through education awareness and grassroots outreach = advocacy.</p><p style=3D"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS', Arial, Helvetica, = sans-serif; font-size: 9pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><strong>H.E.A.R. = Hearing Education and Awareness for Rockers</strong>&nbsp;is a = non-profit 501 (c) (3) organization dedicated to raising awareness of = the real dangers of repeated exposure to excessive noise levels from = music which can lead to permanent, and sometimes debilitating, hearing = loss and tinnitus. Damage from loud sound can occur from playing music, = attending concerts, dance clubs, raves, using stereo earphones, playing = amplified systems too loudly, or other noisy activities. We're here for = musicians, DJs, sound engineers, music fans (especially teens) and = anyone needing help with their hearing.</p><p style=3D"font-family: = 'Trebuchet MS', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 9pt; color: = rgb(0, 0, 0); ">H.E.A.R. got started in l988 when rock and roll = musician&nbsp;<a href=3D"http://www.hearnet.com/about/about_kathy.shtml" = style=3D"color: rgb(0, 51, 153); ">Kathy Peck</a>&nbsp;joined forces = with local physican<a href=3D"http://www.docflash.com/" style=3D"color: = rgb(0, 51, 153); ">Flash Gordon, M.D.</a>&nbsp;in San Francisco. After = attending an excessively loud concert, Kathy and Flash decided to = address the problems and dangers of loud music. As a former bass player = and singer for the San Francisco rock band The Contractions, Kathy had = suffered hearing damage while playing a set at the Oakland Coliseum in = l984. The repeated exposure to excessive noise caused a ringing = sensation in her ears called tinnitus, as well as decreasing her ability = to hear. Though a professional and personal setback, the injury provided = the incentive for Kathy to throw her energies in a new direction. With = the help of Flash Gordon, Kathy launched H.E.A.R.</p><p = style=3D"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; = font-size: 9pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); ">H.E.A.R. receives no state or = federal money and depends entirely on contributions and private = foundation donations. H.E.A.R. has been recognized around the world for = its diligent efforts both to educate the public on the dangers of = excessive noise, and to provide adequate hearing protection for = musicians and music fans. =46rom public service announcements in = mainstream media, to information and earplug tables at concerts across = the U.S., H.E.A.R. is dedicated to promoting awareness of hearing = damage. As a voice of concern between the music and medical communities, = we are determinded to make our message heard. H.E.A.R. wants you to = enjoy the music for a long, long time.</p><p style=3D"font-family: = 'Trebuchet MS', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 9pt; color: = rgb(0, 0, 0); ">Since our inception in 1988, H.E.A.R. has received = support from some of the most respected, popular, and influential names = in the music and medical industries. =46rom performers such as Pete = Townshend of The Who, Lars Ulrich of Metallica, and Les Claypool of = Primus, to media giants like&nbsp;<a = href=3D"http://www.mtvinteractive.com/" style=3D"color: rgb(0, 51, 153); = ">MTV</a>,&nbsp;<a href=3D"http://www.guitarplayer.com/" style=3D"color: = rgb(0, 51, 153); ">Guitar Player Magazine</a>,&nbsp;<a = href=3D"http://www.bassplayer.com/" style=3D"color: rgb(0, 51, 153); = ">Bass Player Magazine</a>,&nbsp;<a = href=3D"http://www.musicmagazines.com/" style=3D"color: rgb(0, 51, 153); = ">Keyboard Magazine</a>, and&nbsp;<a href=3D"http://www.mixonline.com/" = style=3D"color: rgb(0, 51, 153); ">MIX Magazine</a>; from medical groups = such as The American Speech-Language and Hearing Association, The = American Academy of Audiology, and The American Academy of = Otolaryngology, Head and Neck Surgery, to trade groups like the National = Association of Music Merchants, Audio Engineer Society, Consumer = Electronics Association, as well as&nbsp;<a = href=3D"http://www.grammy.com/" style=3D"color: rgb(0, 51, 153); ">The = Recording Academy</a>,&nbsp;<a href=3D"http://www.tecfoundation.com/" = style=3D"color: rgb(0, 51, 153); ">TEC Foundation</a>,<a = href=3D"http://www.lespaulfoundation.org/" style=3D"color: rgb(0, 51, = 153); ">Les Paul Foundation</a>,The Monterey Pop Festival,The Bill = Graham Memorial Foundation,&nbsp;<a href=3D"http://www.macksearplugs.com/"= style=3D"color: rgb(0, 51, 153); ">Mack's Earplugs</a>,&nbsp;<a = href=3D"http://www.e-a-r.com/e%2Da%2Dr.com" style=3D"color: rgb(0, 51, = 153); ">Aearo Corporation</a>,&nbsp;<a href=3D"http://www.earmold.com/" = style=3D"color: rgb(0, 51, 153); ">Westone</a>,&nbsp;<a = href=3D"http://www.etymotic.com/" style=3D"color: rgb(0, 51, 153); = ">Etymotic Research</a>,<a href=3D"http://www.rpginc.com/" style=3D"color:= rgb(0, 51, 153); ">RPG</a>,&nbsp;<a href=3D"http://www.virgin.com/" = style=3D"color: rgb(0, 51, 153); ">Virgin Megastores</a>&nbsp;, = Ziljian,&nbsp;<a href=3D"http://www.sxsw.com/" style=3D"color: rgb(0, = 51, 153); ">South by Southwest</a>,&nbsp;<a = href=3D"http://www.futuresonics.com/" style=3D"color: rgb(0, 51, 153); = ">Future Sonics</a>,<a href=3D"http://www.shure.com/" style=3D"color: = rgb(0, 51, 153); ">&nbsp;Shure</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a = href=3D"http://www.energizer.com/" style=3D"color: rgb(0, 51, 153); = ">Energizer</a>. H.E.A.R. is recognized and supported as leading the = charge against preventable hearing damage.</p><p style=3D"font-family: = 'Trebuchet MS', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 9pt; color: = rgb(0, 0, 0); ">Hearnet is our interactive website that is updated = regularly, providing information and resources on<a = href=3D"http://www.hearnet.com/at_risk/risk_tinnitus.shtml" = style=3D"color: rgb(0, 51, 153); ">tinnitus</a>,<a = href=3D"http://www.hearnet.com/at_risk/risk_aboutloss.shtml" = style=3D"color: rgb(0, 51, 153); ">&nbsp;hearing loss</a>, hearing = evaluation referrals, hearing aids and assistive listening devices = (ALD's), as well as a referral service of audiology&nbsp;<a = href=3D"http://www.hearnet.com/affiliates/affiliate_index.shtml" = style=3D"color: rgb(0, 51, 153); ">partners</a>, ear doctors, and = entertainment links.</p><p style=3D"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS', Arial, = Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 9pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); ">In = addition to distributing information, H.E.A.R. conducts hearing = evaluation clinics in the San Francisco Bay Area, as well as producing = school programs, and public service announcements with music celebrities = for national radio, TV and cable networks. H.E.A.R. has established = H.E.A.R. Affliates world wide.</p><p style=3D"font-family: 'Trebuchet = MS', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 9pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); = ">We want you to be part of the H.E.A.R.Story. We want you to have = access to our&nbsp;<a = href=3D"http://www.hearnet.com/affiliates/affiliate_index.shtml" = style=3D"color: rgb(0, 51, 153); ">H.E.A.R. Partners</a>&nbsp;for = audiological and medical referrals; entertainment and business links. = Check out our public service announcement with Lars Ulrich of Metallica. = Look for&nbsp;<a href=3D"http://www.hearnet.com/shop/index.shtml" = style=3D"color: rgb(0, 51, 153); ">"Can't Hear You Knocking =A9" = video</a>. Stop by and see us when we're at concerts. Sign up for our = contests.&nbsp;<a = href=3D"http://www.hearnet.com/affiliates/affiliate_become.shtml" = style=3D"color: rgb(0, 51, 153); ">Become a H.E.A.R. Partner = sponsor</a>. Whatever works for you.</p><p style=3D"font-family: = 'Trebuchet MS', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 9pt; color: = rgb(0, 0, 0); ">Cruise around our site and and see what we've got for = you. Check out our&nbsp;<a = href=3D"http://www.hearnet.com/events/events_index.shtml" style=3D"color: = rgb(0, 51, 153); ">Events Calendar</a>, and see what concerts H.E.A.R. = will be promoting and when we'll be in your town. Hear what your = favorite musicans are saying over at&nbsp;<a = href=3D"http://www.hearnet.com/features/artist/0902_metallica.shtml" = style=3D"color: rgb(0, 51, 153); ">Artists of the Month</a>. Get info on = hearing problems and resources and find out if you're&nbsp;<a = href=3D"http://www.hearnet.com/at_risk/risk_at_risk.shtml" style=3D"color:= rgb(0, 51, 153); ">at risk</a>. We'll be making noise and adding stuff = all the time, so make us a favorite stop when you're out on the web. = ROLLINGSTONE Magazine's Online Web Watch recommends HEARNET for sound = information on how to prevent hearing loss</p><div style=3D"font-family: = 'Trebuchet MS', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 9pt; color: = rgb(0, 0, 0); "><br></div><div style=3D"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS', = Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 9pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); = "><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Oct 13, = 2013, at 6:05 AM, Bob Masta wrote:</div><br = class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>Another= line of "reasoning" is that "Hey, I've done this <br>lots of times... = sure, my ears ring for a while afterwards, <br>and I can't hear so well, = but by next morning I'm fine."<br><br>They think they have totally = recovered, which is *proof* <br>that the exposure was harmless, and you = are just an old an <br>old fuddy-duddy worry-wart.<br><br>I generally = use the example of the late Joe Hawkins, who <br>famously used himself = as a TTS test subject back in the <br>Early Days. &nbsp;He was convinced = that led to (or at least <br>accelerated) his later hearing loss. = &nbsp;But that example <br>typically "falls on deaf ears" when talking = to young <br>people...<br><br>Best regards,<br><br>Bob = Masta<br><br><br>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<br>On 13 = Oct 2013 at 1:09, Kevin Austin wrote:<br><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">An = on-going topic -- very high level [dB] sounds, hearing loss, personal = and societal responsibility.<br></blockquote><blockquote = type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">Once or twice a = year I am invited and go to an event where the sustained sound pressure = [dB] levels will be in excess of 95dB, and often into the 105 - 110+ dB = range. I am usually long gone before the levels have drifted up to this = point, however they usually start in the 85-90dB range. I use a = combination of Vaseline [petroleum jelly], and water- [spit-] soaked = paper tissues / Kleenex, to seal my ear canals. At the last two events I = left, about 20% of the people were babies or children under 7-9. They = were <br></blockquote>brought close to the speaker stacks, and the = younger children enjoyed playing in front of the = speakers.<br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote = type=3D"cite">My question is not one about NIHL etc, which is = documented, but rather one of how to speak to the people responsible, = before and/or after the event about the damage that is being caused by = these environments. If this were a work place, there would be laws, = rules, regulations and ways of changing the behavior. In these social = environments, rules and regulations don't apply. And I'm talking 3 or = more hours of continuous 105+dB.<br></blockquote><blockquote = type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">There are = currently two students in our university electroacoustic studies program = who have reported their hearing condition to me in some detail, along = with audiograms, and possible hyperacusis. Discussing this with many = younger people tends towards the "teenage invincibility syndrome" [will = never happen to me], and in older people, there is a general ignorance = or lack of understanding, often paired with an attitude that indicates, = "if it really is a problem, there would be laws about it". There are. = But, in <br></blockquote>my experience, there is a fundamental ignorance = of what happens, and what has been happening for the past 35 - 40 = years.<br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote = type=3D"cite">As the professionals in the field, what can be done? and = how can it be done? Is it a matter of this "silent plague", simply = eating up the hearing of those who are under 40 such that they will not = be able to hear in 15 - 25 years.<br></blockquote><blockquote = type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">Recently, this = appeared:<br></blockquote><blockquote = type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">Thu, = 09/12/2013<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote = type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite">Blake Wilson, Graeme Clark, and = Ingeborg Hochmair were awarded the Lasker Award this week for their = contributions to the development of the cochlear implant. The Lasker = Award is essentially the American Nobel prize, and &nbsp;this is an = incredible recognition of not only the importance of cochlear implant = technology but also a much broader acknowledgment of the importance of = hearing and communication by the entire scientific community. There will = be several events over the next few months building on this = <br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>recognition with interviews = with the Lasker awardees, a dedicated one-hour show on PBS with Charlie = Rose and Eric Kandel on hearing, and finally a two-day workshop = sponsored by the Institute of Medicine on hearing loss in older adults = in January.<br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote = type=3D"cite">It is noted that this seems to be mostly about = cochlea-based hearing loss in older adults.<br></blockquote><blockquote = type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote = type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">Other items on = stem cell research growing back hair cells have been seen in the media. = However, these reports do not address a major cause of the problem, = exposure to high dB levels. As I understand it, this developing = technology may have little effect on tinnitus caused by nerve = damage.<br></blockquote><blockquote = type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">Are there ways = to have the media take cognizance of and report on the dangerous = environments which persist?<br></blockquote><blockquote = type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">As = professionals, is there any individual or group responsibility regarding = making this better known and the [likely] consequences more clearly = understood? Is this like the cigarette situation where the 'evil' is not = only socially acceptable, but expected so that the event has 'street = cred'? Club owners and Rave organizers want blood-letting levels, = "because the customers want it".<br></blockquote><blockquote = type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote = type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote = type=3D"cite">Kevin<br></blockquote><br>Bob Masta<br><br> = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;D A Q = A R T A<br>Data AcQuisition And Real-Time Analysis<br> = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a = href=3D"http://www.daqarta.com">www.daqarta.com</a><br>Scope, Spectrum, = Spectrogram, Signal Generator<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Science with your = sound card!<br><br>-- = <br>-----------------------------------------------------<br>This = message was checked for malware by the SKERI email filter. = <br></div></blockquote></div><br><div> <span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: separate; = color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Arial; font-size: 12px; font-style: = normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: = normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: = 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: = 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: = auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" = style=3D"border-collapse: separate; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: = 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); = font-family: Arial; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: = normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: = normal; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; = -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; = white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><span = class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: separate; = -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: = 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; = font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; = letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; = -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; = -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; = white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><span = class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: separate; = -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: = 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; = font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; = letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; = -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; = -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; = white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><div = style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; "><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" = style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; ">Helen J. 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