Re: [AUDITORY] Tweeters for noise trauma ("Henrik G. Sundt" )


Subject: Re: [AUDITORY] Tweeters for noise trauma
From:    "Henrik G. Sundt"  <hsundt@xxxxxxxx>
Date:    Thu, 11 Feb 2021 16:18:36 +0100

How are the ethical concerns in animal testing at such sound pressure = levels considered? Henrik Sundt > 11. feb. 2021 kl. 11:12 skrev Boris Gour=C3=A9vitch <boris@xxxxxxxx>: >=20 > Dear auditory list, >=20 > I was looking for a speaker (probably a tweeter) that would reach 120 = to maybe 130 dB SPL in a high frequency range (for mice). >=20 > I am a bit puzzled with the many papers inducing noise trauma (i.e. = Warren, Fenton et al, J Neuroscience 2020; Amanipour et al, 2018; Chen, = Sheppar and Salvi 2016; Novak, Zelenka et al, 2016) which actually used = pretty common tweeters to do that. Technical specifications for these = tweeters do not really indicate that they could handle such high SPL = (and therefore such high voltage). How did they determine that ? How can = we know then ? Only by sensitivity measure adjusted for the watt power = of the speaker ? >=20 > Let's take an example: in the Warren et al above cited, the Visaton = speaker from RadioSpare is used to deliver 3kHz at 126 dB SPL. The = technical specifications = (https://docs.rs-online.com/170c/0900766b802e5b23.pdf) indicate 30W max = and a sensitivity of 86 dB. Thus, it seems that this speaker could not = deliver above 101 dB SPL. How did the authors do to avoid damaging their = speaker ? >=20 > Same question with other speakers as well. I'm not an = acoustician/electronician and I am probably missing something here. >=20 > Many thanks for your help. Also, many of the tweeters from the papers = above are discontinued so if you know a pretty robust one that you are = safely using at high SPLs, please do not hesitate to tell me. >=20 > Best regards >=20 > Boris >=20 > --=20 > Dr Boris Gour=C3=A9vitch > CNRS Researcher >=20 > Institut de l'Audition > UMR1120 Inserm, Institut Pasteur > 63 rue de Charenton > 75012 Paris, France >=20 > Tel: (+33) 1 76 53 50 41 >=20 > Personal Web page: http://www.pi314.net/ >=20 >=20 > --=20 > L'absence de virus dans ce courrier =C3=A9lectronique a =C3=A9t=C3=A9 = v=C3=A9rifi=C3=A9e par le logiciel antivirus Avast. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus


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