Subject: Re: [AUDITORY] Participation in tempo pedagogy research From: Peter Harrison <p.m.c.harrison@xxxxxxxx> Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2021 18:14:40 +0000--000000000000c44dab05bd1e864e Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Tim, Seth, I can't speak for others on this list, but I for one would not consider innateness as part of the definition of perfect pitch (or absolute pitch). I would simply follow Deutsch's (2013) definition of perfect pitch as "the ability to name or produce a note of a given pitch in the absence of a reference note". The innateness of this ability is then an empirical question, not a definitional question. Seth, I think your idea looks interesting and I hope that the data collection goes well. Best wishes, Peter On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 11:50 AM Tim Ziemer <ziemer@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hi Seth, > > Gamification is a great idea for contactless Experiments in these times. = I > just wanted to mention that =E2=80=9Cperfect tempo=E2=80=9D is not an app= ropriate term. It > seems to be derived from "perfect pitch=E2=80=9D, which is by definition = innate and > not a trained skill. > > > Best, > Tim > > P.S.: We created a sonification game to evaluate our sound design: > http://curat.informatik.uni-bremen.de/en/download.html > check it out! > > =E2=99=AA =E2=99=AB =E2=99=AA =E2=99=AB =E2=99=AA =E2=99=AB =E2=99=AA =E2= =99=AB =E2=99=AA =E2=99=AB =E2=99=AA =E2=99=AB =E2=99=AA =E2=99=AB =E2=99= =AA =E2=99=AB > > Dr. Tim Ziemer > Bremen Spatial Cognition Center > University of Bremen > 28359 Bremen > Office: Cartesium 3.13 > Enrique-Schmidt-Str. 5 > Fon + 49 (0) 421-218-64280 > Fax + 49 (0) 421-218-64239 > ziemer@xxxxxxxx > https://bscc.spatial-cognition.de/ziemer > > On 8. Mar 2021, at 18:35, Holland, Seth T <sholland36@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > As part of a senior research project, my team and I have been exploring > the idea of "perfect tempo" as analogous to perfect pitch =E2=80=93 that = is, if > humans are able to train themselves to identify certain BPM from a > metronome source or to reproduce a given BPM through tapping or other mea= ns > of onset production. To research this topic, we created an iOS app called > Tempo Maestro. Our goal with the app is to provide a game-like atmosphere > to practice skills related to tempo identification, reproduction, and > consistency while simultaneously collecting data to see how effective the > app is at helping users improve. We are in the process of growing our use= r > base, and we would greatly appreciate if you would look at the app and > share it with your colleagues and students. Any feedback would be > appreciated. > > Here are the relevant links: > =E2=80=8ETempo Maestro on the App Store > <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/tempo-maestro/id1540767573> > Tempo Maestro | Improve Your Tempo Skills > <https://matthewa1999.github.io/TempoMaestro.webpage/> > > Additionally, this app is strictly for research purposes and not monetize= d > in any way. Thank you! > > Seth T. Holland > Georgia Institute of Technology > Music Technology | College of Design > Class of 2021 > > > --000000000000c44dab05bd1e864e Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8"><d= iv dir=3D"ltr">Dear Tim, Seth,<div><br></div><div>I can't speak for ot= hers on this list, but I for one would not consider innateness as part of t= he definition of perfect pitch (or absolute pitch). I would simply fol= low Deutsch's (2013) definition of perfect pitch as "the ability to na= me or produce a note of a given pitch in the absence of a reference note&qu= ot;. The innateness of this ability is then an empirical question, not a de= finitional question.</div><div><br></div><div>Seth, I think your idea = looks interesting and I hope that the data collection goes well.</div><div>= <br></div><div>Best wishes,</div><div>Peter</div></div><br><div class=3D"gm= ail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 11:= 50 AM Tim Ziemer <<a href=3D"mailto:ziemer@xxxxxxxx">ziemer@xxxxxxxx= men.de</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"m= argin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left= :1ex"><div style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word;">Hi Seth,<div><br></div><div= >Gamification is a great idea for contactless Experiments in these times. I= just wanted to mention that =E2=80=9Cperfect tempo=E2=80=9D is not an appr= opriate term. It seems to be derived from "perfect pitch=E2=80=9D, whi= ch is by definition innate and not a trained skill.</div><div><br></div><di= v><br></div><div>Best,</div><div>Tim</div><div><br></div><div>P.S.: We crea= ted a sonification game to evaluate our sound design:</div><div><a href=3D"= http://curat.informatik.uni-bremen.de/en/download.html" target=3D"_blank">h= ttp://curat.informatik.uni-bremen.de/en/download.html</a></div><div>check i= t out!</div><div><br><div> <div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-st= yle:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:norma= l;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;w= ord-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none">=E2=99=AA =E2=99=AB =E2=99=AA =E2=99= =AB =E2=99=AA =E2=99=AB =E2=99=AA =E2=99=AB =E2=99=AA =E2=99=AB =E2=99=AA = =E2=99=AB =E2=99=AA =E2=99=AB =E2=99=AA =E2=99=AB<br><br>Dr. Tim Ziemer<br>= Bremen Spatial Cognition Center<br>University of Bremen<br>28359 Bremen<br>= Office: Cartesium 3.13<br>Enrique-Schmidt-Str. 5<br>Fon + 49 (0) 421-218-64= 280<br>Fax + 49 (0) 421-218-64239<br><a href=3D"mailto:ziemer@xxxxxxxx= " target=3D"_blank">ziemer@xxxxxxxx</a><br><a href=3D"https://bscc.spa= tial-cognition.de/ziemer" target=3D"_blank">https://bscc.spatial-cognition.= de/ziemer</a></div> </div> <div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>On 8. Mar 2021, at 18:35, Holland, = Seth T <<a href=3D"mailto:sholland36@xxxxxxxx" target=3D"_blank">sholl= and36@xxxxxxxx</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div style=3D"font-style:norm= al;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-a= lign:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spac= ing:0px;text-decoration:none;font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif= ;font-size:12pt;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Hi everyone,</div><div s= tyle=3D"font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;lette= r-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white= -space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;font-family:Calibri,Ari= al,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><= br></div><div style=3D"font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weig= ht:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-trans= form:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;font-fam= ily:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;background-color:rgb(= 255,255,255)">As part of a senior research project, my team and I have been= exploring the idea of "perfect tempo" as analogous to perfect pi= tch =E2=80=93 that is, if humans are able to train themselves to identify c= ertain BPM from a metronome source or to reproduce a given BPM through tapp= ing or other means of onset production. To research this topic, we created = an iOS app called Tempo Maestro. Our goal with the app is to provide a game= -like atmosphere to practice skills related to tempo identification, reprod= uction, and consistency while simultaneously collecting data to see how eff= ective the app is at helping users improve. We are in the process of growin= g our user base, and we would greatly appreciate if you would look at the a= pp and share it with your colleagues and students. Any feedback would be ap= preciated.</div><div style=3D"font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;fo= nt-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;tex= t-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;f= ont-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;background-col= or:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></div><div style=3D"font-style:normal;font-variant= -caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text= -indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-de= coration:none;font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt= ;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Here are the relevant links:</div><div = style=3D"font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;lett= er-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;whit= e-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;font-family:Calibri,Ar= ial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">= <a href=3D"https://apps.apple.com/us/app/tempo-maestro/id1540767573" target= =3D"_blank">=E2=80=8ETempo Maestro on the App Store</a></div><div styl= e=3D"font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-s= pacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-sp= ace:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;font-family:Calibri,Arial,= Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><a h= ref=3D"https://matthewa1999.github.io/TempoMaestro.webpage/" target=3D"_bla= nk">Tempo Maestro | Improve Your Tempo Skills</a></div><div style=3D"font-s= tyle:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:norm= al;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;= word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,s= ans-serif;font-size:12pt;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></div><div = style=3D"font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;lett= er-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;whit= e-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;font-family:Calibri,Ar= ial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">= Additionally, this app is strictly for research purposes and not monetized = in any way. Thank you!<br></div><div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-si= ze:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;lette= r-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white= -space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><div style=3D"font-fam= ily:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><br></div><div id=3D= "gmail-m_-4946083863562818220Signature"><div><div id=3D"gmail-m_-4946083863= 562818220divtagdefaultwrapper" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-fam= ily:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif"><div style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-botto= m:0px"><span style=3D"font-family:Times,"Times New Roman",serif">= Seth T. Holland</span><span style=3D"font-family:Times,"Times New= Roman",serif"></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-bottom= :0px"><span style=3D"font-family:Times,"Times New Roman",serif">G= eorgia Institute of Technology</span></div><div style=3D"margin-top:0px;mar= gin-bottom:0px"><span style=3D"font-family:Times,"Times New Roman"= ;,serif">Music Technology | College of Design</span></div><div style=3D"mar= gin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"><span style=3D"font-family:Times,"Times= New Roman",serif">Class of 2021</span></div></div></div></div></div><= /div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></blockquote></div> --000000000000c44dab05bd1e864e--