Subject: Re: [AUDITORY] apps for web-based listening tests From: Chris Stecker <cstecker@xxxxxxxx> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2021 12:57:59 -0600--Apple-Mail=_31E5660F-1C29-4966-B2FA-D04B97D59954 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi Jan and List,=20 I=E2=80=99d like to point you to a resource that you might find helpful = in developed you web-based or other remote testing approach: The = =E2=80=9CRemote Testing Wiki=E2=80=9D at = https://spatialhearing.org/remotetesting.=20 The Wiki is the result of activities by the Remote Testing Task Force, = which was launched last year by the Acoustical Society of America = Technical Committee on Psychological and Physiological Acoustics. It = includes information about issues and practices for remote testing, a = database of platforms that can be used to develop and deploy remote = testing research, and a variety of other resources including brief = reports of project experiences, bibliography of related works, and links = to other online resources.=20 The Platform Survey Database includes information that Jan could use to = find and select platforms, including several Python-based approaches, = that Task Force members and others have evaluated.=20 Finally, the Wiki has a lot of information in it currently but is still = growing. We still need help identifying and evaluating platforms the we = might not know about yet. There are links for submitting new examples = and platformsSo if you have experience with a platform (for example, = Borys seems familiar with SenseLabOnline), it would be GREAT if you = could visit the wiki and submit information about it. That goes for new = platforms and for updating information about features of existing = platforms. There is a simple survey tool that just takes a few minutes.=20= Feel free to reach out to me (or better yet, via the contact links on = the Wiki) if you have additional question.=20 Chris=20 =E2=80=94 G. Christopher Stecker, PhD, FASA Coordinating Editor, Psychological and Physiological Acoustics Journal of the Acoustical Society of America Chair, Task Force on Remote Testing ASA Technical Committee on Psychological and Physiological Acoustics cstecker@xxxxxxxx > On Jan 12, 2021, at 11:46 PM, Borys Kowalewski <borys.k@xxxxxxxx> = wrote: >=20 > Hello Jan, >=20 > Good to hear from you! >=20 > For paired comparisons, ABX etc. you might find SenseLabOnline = interesting. It allows you to create a multidimensional design and = prepare a simple graphical summary. You can also download the raw data = in a JSON file for further analysis. However, it is very much a quality- = and preference-evaluation tool, and except for the ABX it does not = support the typical =E2=80=9Cperformance-based=E2=80=9D n-AFC tests with = wrong and correct answers. Adaptive procedures are not an option either, = since all the tests require pre-loading of wave files. >=20 > Hopefully other list members can suggest viable alternatives :) >=20 > All best, > Borys >=20 > On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 06:23 Jan Felcyn <janaku@xxxxxxxx = <mailto:janaku@xxxxxxxx>> wrote: > Dear List! > =20 > I am looking for some web-based apps which allow to create listening = tests. By creating listening tests I mean rather simple approach =E2=80=93= like e.g. tests from Music Lab. Just playin=E2=80=99 stereo audio = files, gathering responses and aggregate them in one file. One important = feature is that it should be possible to create psychoacoustic tests = like pair comparisons, 2AFS and so on. > =20 > Do you know any web-based platform for such thing? I=E2=80=99ve heard = about BRAMS but never used it. I know Python and I know that I can use = Django, but maybe there is something already prepared for such tests? > =20 > Thanks in advance for all comments! > =20 > Regards > =20 > --- > Jan Felcyn PhD > Chair of Acoustics, > Adam Mickiewicz University, > Pozna=C5=84, Poland --Apple-Mail=_31E5660F-1C29-4966-B2FA-D04B97D59954 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 <html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; = -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">Hi = Jan and List, <div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div = class=3D"">I=E2=80=99d like to point you to a resource that you might = find helpful in developed you web-based or other remote testing = approach: The =E2=80=9CRemote Testing Wiki=E2=80=9D at <a = href=3D"https://spatialhearing.org/remotetesting" = class=3D"">https://spatialhearing.org/remotetesting</a>. </div><div = class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">The Wiki is the result = of activities by the Remote Testing Task Force, which was launched last = year by the Acoustical Society of America Technical Committee on = Psychological and Physiological Acoustics. It includes information about = issues and practices for remote testing, a database of platforms that = can be used to develop and deploy remote testing research, and a variety = of other resources including brief reports of project experiences, = bibliography of related works, and links to other online = resources. </div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div = class=3D"">The Platform Survey Database includes information that Jan = could use to find and select platforms, including several Python-based = approaches, that Task Force members and others have = evaluated. </div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div = class=3D"">Finally, the Wiki has a lot of information in it currently = but is still growing. We still need help identifying and evaluating = platforms the we might not know about yet. There are links for = submitting new examples and platformsSo if you have experience with a = platform (for example, Borys seems familiar with SenseLabOnline), it = would be GREAT if you could visit the wiki and submit information about = it. That goes for new platforms and for updating information about = features of existing platforms. There is a simple survey tool that just = takes a few minutes. </div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div = class=3D"">Feel free to reach out to me (or better yet, via the contact = links on the Wiki) if you have additional question. </div><div = class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Chris </div><div = class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div = class=3D""> <div>=E2=80=94<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">G. Christopher Stecker, PhD, = FASA<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Coordinating Editor, Psychological = and Physiological Acoustics<br class=3D"">Journal of the Acoustical = Society of America<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Chair, Task Force = on Remote Testing<br class=3D"">ASA Technical Committee = on Psychological and Physiological Acoustics<br class=3D""><br = class=3D""><a href=3D"mailto:cstecker@xxxxxxxx" = class=3D"">cstecker@xxxxxxxx</a><br class=3D""><br = class=3D""><br class=3D""></div> </div> <div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div = class=3D"">On Jan 12, 2021, at 11:46 PM, Borys Kowalewski <<a = href=3D"mailto:borys.k@xxxxxxxx" class=3D"">borys.k@xxxxxxxx</a>> = wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div = dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">Hello Jan,</div><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D""><br = class=3D""></div><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">Good to hear from = you!</div><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div = dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">For paired comparisons, ABX etc. you might find = SenseLabOnline interesting. It allows you to create a multidimensional = design and prepare a simple graphical summary. You can also download the = raw data in a JSON file for further analysis. However, it is very much a = quality- and preference-evaluation tool, and except for the ABX it does = not support the typical =E2=80=9Cperformance-based=E2=80=9D n-AFC tests = with wrong and correct answers. Adaptive procedures are not an option = either, since all the tests require pre-loading of wave files.</div><div = dir=3D"auto" class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div dir=3D"auto" = class=3D"">Hopefully other list members can suggest viable alternatives = :)</div><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div = dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">All best,</div><div dir=3D"auto" = class=3D"">Borys</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div = class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Jan = 13, 2021 at 06:23 Jan Felcyn <<a href=3D"mailto:janaku@xxxxxxxx" = class=3D"">janaku@xxxxxxxx</a>> wrote:<br = class=3D""></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px = 0px 0px = 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;borde= r-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"> <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""> <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""> <div style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri;" class=3D""> <div style=3D"font-family:Calibri" class=3D"">Dear List!</div> <div style=3D"font-family:Calibri" class=3D""> </div> <div style=3D"font-family:Calibri" class=3D"">I am looking for some = web-based apps which allow to create listening tests.=20 By creating listening tests I mean rather simple approach =E2=80=93 like = e.g. tests from=20 Music Lab. Just playin=E2=80=99 stereo audio files, gathering responses = and aggregate=20 them in one file. One important feature is that it should be possible to = create=20 psychoacoustic tests like pair comparisons, 2AFS and so on.</div> <div style=3D"font-family:Calibri" class=3D""> </div> <div style=3D"font-family:Calibri" class=3D"">Do you know any web-based = platform for such thing? I=E2=80=99ve heard about BRAMS=20 but never used it. I know Python and I know that I can use Django, but = maybe=20 there is something already prepared for such tests?</div> <div style=3D"font-family:Calibri" class=3D""> </div> <div style=3D"font-family:Calibri" class=3D"">Thanks in advance for all = comments!</div> <div style=3D"font-family:Calibri" class=3D""> </div> <div style=3D"font-family:Calibri" class=3D"">Regards</div> <div style=3D"font-family:Calibri" class=3D""> </div> <div style=3D"font-family:Calibri" class=3D"">---</div> <div style=3D"font-family:Calibri" class=3D"">Jan Felcyn PhD</div> <div style=3D"font-family:Calibri" class=3D"">Chair of Acoustics,</div> <div style=3D"font-family:Calibri" class=3D"">Adam Mickiewicz = University,</div> <div style=3D"font-family:Calibri" class=3D"">Pozna=C5=84, = Poland</div></div></div></div> </blockquote></div></div> </div></blockquote></div><br class=3D""></div></body></html>= --Apple-Mail=_31E5660F-1C29-4966-B2FA-D04B97D59954--