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----- Original Message -----
From: "C.M. Rankovic" <rankovic@articulation.com>
To: "Chas Pavlovic" <cpavlovic@yahoo.com>
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 10:16 AM
Subject: Re: Re: AUDITORY Digest - 23 Jun 2003 to 25 Jun 2003 (#2003-120)


> Chas:
>
> You need to actually conduct an SII verus Fletcher and Galt comparison to
> provide support for your assertion that the SII is just as good.  Until
> then, I'll stick with the 50-year-old solution that works "reasonably"
well.
>
> Christine Rankovic, PhD
> Articulation Incorporated
> Cambridge, MA  02139
>
> A=V*E*F*H
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chas Pavlovic" <cpavlovic@yahoo.com>
> To: <AUDITORY@LISTS.MCGILL.CA>
> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 2:13 AM
> Subject: Re: AUDITORY Digest - 23 Jun 2003 to 25 Jun 2003 (#2003-120)
>
>
> > Jont: French and Steiberg have used the same data base
> > to derive the AI as did Fletcher and Galt.  So the
> > answer to your questions is that SII would acount
> > perfectly for those data if the appropriate importance
> > function is used.  But I want to remind you that the
> > SII differs from the AI in the following:
> > 1. importance function for "average speech" is used
> > for general qauntification of a system; importance
> > functions for specific speech tests are available too.
> > 2. System with reverberation and some other distortion
> > are accounted for using the STI methodology.
> > 3. we did try to improve both French and Steinberg and
> > Fletcher and Galt methodologies by building on the
> > last 50 years of scientific work.
> > Chas
> >
> > --- Jont Allen <jba@auditorymodels.org> wrote:
> > > Chas,
> > >
> > > How does this software (SII) account for the
> > > Fletcher Galt AI data?
> > > Hannes should know the answer to this question.
> > >
> > > Jont
> > >
> > > Automatic digest processor wrote:
> > >
> > > > There is one message totalling 44 lines in this
> > > issue.
> > > >
> > > > Topics of the day:
> > > >
> > > >   1. SII Software -- New Web Site (Speech
> > > Intelligibility Index)
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Date:    Wed, 25 Jun 2003 15:40:31 -0700
> > > > From:    Chas Pavlovic <cpavlovic@YAHOO.COM>
> > > > Subject: SII Software -- New Web Site (Speech
> > > Intelligibility Index)
> > > >
> > > >         A new site www.sii.to  has been created by
> > > members of
> > > > the Acoustical Society of America (ASA) Working
> > > Group
> > > > S3-79, which is in  charge of reviewing American
> > > > National Standard ANSI S3.5-1997 ("Methods for
> > > > Calculation of the Speech Intelligibility Index").
> > > The
> > > > site provides software for calculating the Speech
> > > > Intelligibility Index (SII), as well as notes
> > > relevant
> > > > to potential future changes of the standard and
> > > the
> > > > listing of known errors to be corrected in the
> > > next
> > > > version of the standard.  You are encouraged to
> > > > contact us with any information that may help make
> > > the
> > > > Standard better and easier to use.  Also, if you
> > > have
> > > > other software that can facilitate SII
> > > calculations,
> > > > we urge you to send it to us for a review and
> > > posting
> > > > on this site.
> > > >         This standard defines a method for
> > > computing a
> > > > physical measure that is highly correlated with
> > > the
> > > > intelligibility of speech as evaluated by speech
> > > > perception tests given a group of talkers and
> > > > listeners.  This measure is called the Speech
> > > > Intelligibility Index, or SII.  The SII is
> > > calculated
> > > > from acoustical measurements of speech and noise.
> > > >
> > > > Chas Pavlovic, chairman
> > > > John Hou
> > > > Tammo Houtgast
> > > > Harry Levitt
> > > > Hannes Muesch
> > > > Gerald Studebaker
> > > > Pat Zurek
> > > >
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> > > > ------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > End of AUDITORY Digest - 23 Jun 2003 to 25 Jun
> > > 2003 (#2003-120)
> > > >
> > >
> > ***************************************************************
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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