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Re: Five string bass
As an novice audio engineer years ago, I was told that "it takes five
years to learn to hear" -- by which my mentors meant, learn to distinguish
what's happening in the soundscape of a multi-track mix. This could be
anything from a pop on the tape (yes, tape -- 2" tape for 24 tracks, some
of you remember that I bet!) to overcompressed bass or vocals, to a mike
that's slipped off focus on the snare. Or which channel is getting just a
wee bit distorted.
The way it was taught to me was to listen to the whole frequency spectrum
almost like a piano keyboard, and to pay particular attention to different
frequency segments where typical problems (pops, e.g.) happened.
This became very useful later in life when I started losing my hearing --
I can still distinguish way more than I "ought" to be able to according to
the charts, because I learned to hear at a finer granularity.
On Tue, 6 Feb 2007, [iso-8859-1] Ole Kühl wrote:
A musician's "ear" is a metaphor for the whole faculty of hearing. Of course
musicians are not able to surpass biological constraints, but training does
develop hearing (if not, all ear training in conservatories is wasted).
Anyway I agree with you that more research in this area would be welcome.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Patterson" <rdp1@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "Ole Kühl" <kyhl@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 2:52 PM
Subject: Re: [AUDITORY] Five string bass
Ole Kühl wrote:
It is unlikely that it is the ears that are trained. It is more likely to
be the brain, or the use of words to describe perceptions. But to begin
with we need to understand just what it is that trained musicians can do
with low notes that the rest of us can't.
Possibly, musicians with their highly trained ears are simply capable of
hearing more than non-musicians?
Do you really think they can reliably make finer pitch discriminations?
I understand that they think they can, but is it true of the population of
trained musicians? And if it is true, is it a big difference?
If so, someone should try and demonstrate just how much better they are.
Regards Roy P
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