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Re: Five string bass

As an novice audio engineer years ago, I was told that "it takes five years to learn to hear" -- by which my mentors meant, learn to distinguish what's happening in the soundscape of a multi-track mix. This could be anything from a pop on the tape (yes, tape -- 2" tape for 24 tracks, some of you remember that I bet!) to overcompressed bass or vocals, to a mike that's slipped off focus on the snare. Or which channel is getting just a wee bit distorted.

The way it was taught to me was to listen to the whole frequency spectrum almost like a piano keyboard, and to pay particular attention to different frequency segments where typical problems (pops, e.g.) happened.

This became very useful later in life when I started losing my hearing -- I can still distinguish way more than I "ought" to be able to according to the charts, because I learned to hear at a finer granularity.


On Tue, 6 Feb 2007, [iso-8859-1] Ole Kühl wrote:

Dear Roy

A musician's "ear" is a metaphor for the whole faculty of hearing. Of course musicians are not able to surpass biological constraints, but training does develop hearing (if not, all ear training in conservatories is wasted). Anyway I agree with you that more research in this area would be welcome.

Best wishes

Ole Kühl

----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Patterson" <rdp1@xxxxxxxxx> To: "Ole Kühl" <kyhl@xxxxxxx> Cc: <AUDITORY@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 2:52 PM Subject: Re: [AUDITORY] Five string bass

Ole Kühl wrote:

Possibly, musicians with their highly trained ears are simply capable of hearing more than non-musicians?
It is unlikely that it is the ears that are trained. It is more likely to be the brain, or the use of words to describe perceptions. But to begin with we need to understand just what it is that trained musicians can do with low notes that the rest of us can't.

Do you really think they can reliably make finer pitch discriminations?
I understand that they think they can, but is it true of the population of trained musicians? And if it is true, is it a big difference?
If so, someone should try and demonstrate just how much better they are.

Regards Roy P

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