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Re: sensory consonance /dissonance' musical consonance / dissonance

I'm not sure these 'conclusions' can be definitively analyzed by empirical studies...students who have taken Latin may not use Latin, but surely obliquely they could use their knowledge of the language in etymology and other associative manners.  Results of lessons cannot be measured in any black and white fashion.

Susan Allen PhD
Associate Dean
Instructor of Harp & Improvisation
School of Music
California Institute of the Arts
Valencia, CA 91355 USA

On Aug 19, 2007, at 3:14 PM, Martin Braun wrote:

Scott Spiegelberg wrote:

One observable
fact is that both Webern and Schoenberg are still taught today (both
their compositions and their theories and aesthetics) in music
schools around the world, thus their impact on music making is
decidedly not close to zero.

Sorry, this conclusion does not follow from the observation at all. In some European countries grammar school students must take lessons in Latin for many years. Yet the application of this language by students in real life is evidently close to zero. Further, in some countries students were forced, due to political reasons, to take lessons in languages that were extremely unpopular. The results of these lessons were also often approaching zero.

Another observable fact is how many
composers state being influenced positively or negatively by the
Second Viennese School or by serialism in general (the number of
living composers who claim this is easily in the thousands).

Where is this listing?
Have these composers ever been counted?
Has there ever been an empirical survey on this issue at all?


Martin Braun
Neuroscience of Music
S-671 95 Klässbol